The History of Whoo User Reviews

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The History of Whoo Whitening set

The comments had reached 76 on the my Sulwhasoo v. The History of Whoo post! So I hope I can get some more user feedbacks here on a separate thread completely devoted to The History of Whoo!

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129 comments on The History of Whoo User Reviews

  1. phoebe
    September 25, 2010 at 7:31 pm (4 years ago)

    Hi Joseibi and beautiful ladies,

    Thank you for your blog! I am so happy and lucky to find out your site. It’s amazing site. A lot of helpful users to review the product especially on the History of whoo products. I am so desperate about my skin. I hope you can help me or any other members can help me. Please help me …please. I will appreciate.
    I have oily skin, acne and dark red marks. I am so embarrassed and unconfident to go out or go to work. Left side of my face has no acne but some dark red marks. Right side of my face has acne like small, or big one and so many dark red marks. 1 month ago, I bought the sample whitening line from Whoo (cleansers, cream, toner, emulsion, peel off). The product works fine on my left side. But on the right side, the products doesn’t help a lot or lightening the scar. The emulsion or cream (from Whoo or any kind of other brands) is not absorbed into my skin. It looks like sit on the top of my skins. It seems whitening products give me more oily. If I don’t use it, how can I clear dark red marks on my skin
    Do you think I should clear out my skin free of acne and use whitening line or combine them together. I am not sure the Whoo has product for my oily skin. Do you know any kinds of makeup brands the best for acne skin and very sensitive skin like me. I work in the office so I have to use the make up to cover my terrible acne face. I go to gym and eat healthy. Please help me! Sorry so many questions. Thank you so much! I am looking forward to all your answers .

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    • Joseibi
      September 27, 2010 at 3:36 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Phoebe,

      You poor thing! I am not sure if I can give you a miracle but I can only give some suggestions. Do you still suffer from chronic, recurring acne or are these marks from the past? May I also ask your age?

      If the acne is quite severe or the scarring is deep and dark, I would definitely suggest going to a reputable spa, get a deep cleansing facial once a month. The advantage of doing a facial at a good spa is that a trained esthetician should be able to analyse your skin (usually done under a special magnifying light/glass). Often times people who have problematic skin, esp. acne, are using the wrong products because they think their skin type is oily. If your skin is dehydrated and you don’t hydrate it enough, and use harsh products to combat the acne, a lot of times your skin will be very damaged and have a hard time to heal properly.

      Another advantage is that with microdermabrasion some of these scars will fade little by little. There is no overnight miracle I am afraid. Because some of the ‘whitening’ products from Asia are really meant for freckles rather than acne scars (these are totally different sources and the whitening products may work on one type more than the other), you may not see results. Also, from my experience with my freckles, most whitening products will take at least 3 months to really see some significant differences, if any.

      So far, you said that the History of Whoo products worked on your left side, which has no acne but acne scarring, but not on the right where there are pimples. I can only suggest focusing on clearing up the acne first, and once you achieve that balance and the acne doesn’t keep coming back, you can start the whitening. When your skin is inflamed (your right side) it is possible that it wont’ absorb anything and you may actually end up irritating it more with all these products.

      Avoid any kind of scrub if your acne is flaring – or massage for that matter – it will only make it worse.

      Some of the mineral makeup is good for sensitive and acne prone skin – e.g. Bare Escentuals, Jane Iredale, etc., but you have to make sure you aren’t allergic to bismuth oxychloride, a common ingredient in mineral cosmetics that gives it a pearlescent finish. Make sure whatever you are using isn’t comedogenic (won’t clog pores).

      I would definitely suggest going to a professional salon (don’t go to cheap ones – improperly performed extractions can lead to scarring!), at least to find out your real skin type. When your skin is prone to acne you will need a deep cleansing done every month, but a professional should be able to unclog your pores without further exacerbating your acne.

      I hope this helps!! And I hope you can find a good spa you can trust!!

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    • Joseibi
      September 28, 2010 at 10:24 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Phoebe,

      I forgot to suggest also two things too – so important! First, if you can afford it, and if your skin is really bad, I would suggest going to a dermatologist.

      Second, many women report having very clear skin after being on Yaz, a birth control pill. But of course you need to check with your doctor first. Yaz has been used to treat acne for years now. It’s a low dose estrogen birth control pill.

      Several years ago, a male friend of mine suddenly had his skin cleared up. He had always been afflicted with very severe acne and tried every acne product on the market with no results. Proactiv turned his skin into a tomato because he had such sensitive skin. Then, he saw a specialist who tested things he could be allergic to, and suggested he cut out dairy. And since then, his skin completely cleared up – he was allergic to dairy! Acne is one of those mysteries in life, even doctors cannot ‘cure’ it. Sometimes we get lucky with our skin, sometimes we try the right approach and it works. If your acne is severe I would really recommend seeing your doctor first and check out your options (e.g. Yaz, etc.).

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  2. Tracy
    September 27, 2010 at 11:56 am (4 years ago)

    Hi phoebe,

    I’m no skincare expert but I can share a little bit of my personal experience here. I had very oily skin in my teens and my dermatologist used to prescribe me Accutane to get my acne under control. Back then I used the Shiseido’s Pureness line designed for oily and acne prone skin. Now in my late 20s I have combination/oily skin in the summer and combination/dry in the winter. I can’t comment on the effectiveness of the History of Whoo since I’ve never used it. But I’ve tried the whole Shiseido White Lucent line – facial wash, softener lotion, serum and moisturizer. The one thing that I feel that has an immediate brightening effect is their new Intensive Spot Targeting Serum. Even though it’s a serum, the watery texture feels more like an essence. The rest of the White Lucent line is just okay and I don’t particularly like their emulsion/moisturizer. Currently I’m using SK-II’s cellumination essence & cream. The cellumination essence is pretty good but I think White Lucent one is better. I’m not sure if the cellumination cream would be too rich for your oily skin but it works well for my combination skin and causes no irritation. I think what you probably need is an effective brightening essence and an oil-free moisturizer. If you have very sensitive skin you can always go to the cosmetic counters and ask for samples to try first. I hope this helps and good luck!

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  3. momo
    September 28, 2010 at 12:11 am (4 years ago)

    i don’t know.

    i learned that hot anything, heat, steam etc. is the last thing you want to expose your acne skin to. inflammation does not respond well to steam or hot temperature.
    if you go to a spa and they see you have acne prone skin and they put you under a steamer, leave right away because they were clearly not trained to deal with trouble skin.

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    • Joseibi
      September 28, 2010 at 3:20 pm (4 years ago)

      Actually the advice for hot compresses against acne is from the September issue of Allure magazine, where the dermatologist recommends for age 30+ people suffering from acne.

      Asian magazines advocate using ice on pimples or inflamed pimples.

      so far, massage is definitely a no-no when it comes to acne, but anything else, there is no definitive proof. There is even disagreement among dermatologists since acne is not a disease nor is curable. That’s why people who struggle with acne are miserable – there are so many advice and combinations of things you can try, but I still believe the best thing to do is to get your skin analysed, because if you aren’t using the right products for your skin type, the acne will only get worse. That and seeing a doctor for options of course.

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  4. phoebe
    September 29, 2010 at 11:10 pm (4 years ago)

    First of all I’d like to thank all of your advices. I am so happy to have all your attention to me. I love you all. Many thanks in advance!
    @Tracy: besides the Whoo products, I also use Shiseido new serum too. There is 1 thing I like it not breaking me out, but it seems doesn’t lightening my skin at all. I use almost 2 months already. I agree with you the Shiseido whitening moisturizer is not good for me. I tried but no successful at all. I also tried Ski++ blue gel to help discoloration, Shiseido pureness. Hopeless on everything
    @ Joseibi & Momo: I am still suffering from chronic recurring acne. These deep red marks like bruise are from new acne and the past too. I don’t know somehow how can new acne are recurring from old acne mark. I hate them so much. Almost every single day, I feel so pain on my face except I go to sleep at that time I don’t feel anything. I am already 28. The age is kinds of old for scar healing. I believe birth control bills help on acne. I wish I could use it since I am trying to have baby. Every single night, I do hot compress and cold compress. It helps, but you’re be surprised when I am gonna tell u this. For example: if this week, I use hot compress and cold compress, the next week my face will be clear some acne, but few days later, the acne activity goes back normal , all white head, yellow head, red swollen on my face. I can’t understand my ski n at all. My doctor says I have oily skin. She gives me some medicine but it doesn’t help at all. I used to save money for Red door spa. Every time it cost me a lot. It helps a lot (4 times spa/month= $600). I did for 3 months. I have never seen my face clear like that. When I stop going spa since I can’t afford any more, my face is horrible again. Now everything must be on budget for pregnant planning things.
    @Tracy & Joseibi & Momo: The sun protection should be always used with serum. Every time, I use sun protection. My face feels like burning, itchy even I sit in the cool room. My skincare routine like below:
    Weekday:
    Morning: use Cetaphil for wash, Shiseido serum, Clinique even better SPF 15, eye cream
    Evening: use Cetaphil for wash and the Whoo face wash, hot and cold steamer, Shiseido serum or nothing on the face, eyecream
    Weekend:
    Morning/Evening still the same weekday but plus facial scrub
    I am so desperate. I don’t know what to do. So sorry to let you know about my situation.

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    • Joseibi
      September 30, 2010 at 3:28 pm (4 years ago)

      No problem Phoebe!

      I understand your frustration. I have loved ones and friends suffer from acne all their lives, the worst thing is that people just assume you don’t take care of your skin but more often than not, people with acne actually take care of their skin more than people with normal skin. It’s just a bad condition that has no cure!

      From what you wrote, the spa does help! Which means the deep cleansing (usually a clay mask) worked to unclog your pores. With acne I would not recommend using a facial scrub – you may want to try a non-drying facial mask once a week to deep cleanse and draw out impurities from your pores. That’s what the spas do when you go there.

      My sister had very bad acne and her skin got really nice when she was pregnant and it stays that way after her pregnancy. The first 3 months were tough – because of the surge in hormones most people break out; however, after the first trimester my skin got really great too, didnt’ even have to use much to maintain it! So there is light at the end of the tunnel!

      You do need a moisturizer even if your skin is oily. If you can find an oil-free waterbased moisturizer to use that would be great. When your skin is too dry sometimes it can get oily too – oil and moisture are two different things. You can lack moisture but not oil so you can appear oily; or you can lack oil and moisture and yours skin is dry and dehydrated (which is my skin type). Also, I would recommend a higher SPF even if you are indoors. UV rays can be reflected on different surfaces and through windows. If you have a lot of acne scarring, a higher SPF will protect your scars from darkening.

      I do feel bad for you and hopefully your skin will clear up!

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  5. phoebe
    September 30, 2010 at 6:23 pm (4 years ago)

    Thank you Joseibi, do you know any good oil-free water based moisturizer? When I use sun protection, it makes my skin so itchy and hot. If in the morning, I use serum plus sun protection plus foundation, at the same day I have more new pimple. Without sun protection, i don’t feel hot or itchy on my face, less pimple compared to with using SPF. Maybe I am allergic to SPF. Do u know any SPF good? I see your pictures on profile. Your skin looks so nice and smooth. I hope in one day there is light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you so much for quick response! I am so lucky to know you

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    • Joseibi
      October 6, 2010 at 10:38 am (4 years ago)

      Hi Phoebe,

      It’s possible that you are breaking out because of your sunscreen! Which brand and what active ingredients are in your sunscreen you are using currently? A lot of people break out from sunscreens. The tricky part is to find out which particular ingredient you are allergic to. My skin does not tolerate chemical sunscreen and will sting and burn if I use things like Oxybenzone (which is very bad for you anyway).

      Kate Somerville has a reputable oil-free moisturizer for sensitive acne prone skin: http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P232906&categoryId=B70 you can also find a ton of different brands offering similar products. But you will need to look for something for sensitive skin, and non comedogenic. HABA’s Squalane (pure Squalane) is known to help acne prone skin as well and will not clog pores: http://www.habaus.com/servlet/ProductView?command=cp&supplierID=681&commodityID=20124&searchIndex=1 – it is an oil but the kind that’s great for human skin. I used it in my 20s when my skin was troubled as well.

      A good SPF – I would suggest going with zinc oxide and avoid stuff with oxybenzone. Le Roche Posay makes one called Athelios which is highly rated at cosmeticsdatabase.com for product safety. Shiseido’s are also non comedogenic and with zinc oxide.

      I really hope you can find out what’s causing your breakouts!

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  6. momo
    October 2, 2010 at 8:55 pm (4 years ago)

    phoebe,

    i feel your pain. believe me, this is an issue close to my heart. i would like to reiterate what joseibi has said that you NEED moisturizer. the serum is a great idea but my skin has less flare ups when it’s well moisturized and well balanced. i just wanted to let you know that it is very, very important. remember that the oil our body produces is not exactly moisturizing. we oily skin people need moisture too. and remember that when our skin isn’t well balanced and moisturized, our body will compensate by producing more oil to provide some type of barrier on our skin. for us, this is a problem.

    i’ve used oil-free water based moisturizers in the past but they weren’t moisturizing enough for me. so i switched over to regular cream based moisturizers. some mornings i would wake up with whiteheads because it was just too oily and pore clogging. so my goal was to find a great cream based moisturizer that wouldn’t cause whiteheads. it has been trial and error but i finally found one that does the trick. really, our skins are all different and we need to find one that fits. try the oil-free water based moisturizer and see how you like it.

    i feel that with my oily, acne prone skin; cleansing is extremely important. (which might be why i feel a need to replenish with extra moisture afterwards). and i always finish with an oil controlling product because it does help. i was always put off with oil based cleansers because i have oily skin and i thought it would just be pore clogging but it hasn’t caused an issue for me. i really love oil cleansers followed by a foaming cleanser. it does the trick.

    i also agree with joseibi that a scrub exfoliant is too harsh on acne skin. might i suggest a chemical exfoliant? it sounds a bit terrible but it isn’t so bad. a 2.5% or a 5% AHA serum once or twice a week wouldn’t be a bad idea. look into it. it’s very gentle but effective if used on a regular basis.

    so a good cleansing routine, followed by great moisturizer and then a oil controlling product and a gentle chemical exfoliant once a week has been extremely useful for me.

    i hope this advice helps.

    i’m sorry you’re going through this but i’ve also heard from several people who has had acne skin, that going through labor totally changed their skin and now they’re acne free. so keep a positive outlook. =)

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    • Joseibi
      October 6, 2010 at 11:06 am (4 years ago)

      thank you momo – great advice! :-)

      Origins makes a very gentle AHA brightening peel (http://www.origins.com/templates/products/sp_nonshaded.tmpl?CATEGORY_ID=CATEGORY23012&PRODUCT_ID=PROD15971) which I used for a few months. while I didn’t find it to have much brightening results against my freckles, everytime I use it I find that it clarifies my skin and I never get breakouts even during that time of the month. Whenever I feel a bump coming I use it and it goes away. It’s a good product for just keeping the skin clear and best of all, unlike some of the other AHA stuff that can sting sensitive skin, this one doesn’t even leave a tingle! Like momo, I use a chemical exfoliant (Origins Brighter By Nature brightening peel) once a week. I am 35 and don’t use a facial scrub anymore – my skin is too sensitive for that now.

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  7. kman
    October 4, 2010 at 5:48 pm (4 years ago)

    Joseibi,

    i wonder if you know the difference between the amore pacific treatment cleansing oil and the historty of whoo oil balm cleansing?
    i checked the skII mask omg they are very expensive la!!
    greets kman

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    • Joseibi
      October 6, 2010 at 11:48 am (4 years ago)

      They are both cleansing oils (makeup remover) but of course with different ingredients.

      The SKII masks are expensive, but totally worth it! at about US$15 per mask, still cheaper than going to a spa (where they use a similar type mask on you but can’t guarantee the same results).

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  8. Tuyet Ngo
    October 7, 2010 at 5:21 am (4 years ago)

    To Joseibi and others who used History of Whoo

    I bought both the HIstory of whoo whitening essence and cream, but I don’t know the order in which to use them. Which one do I use first? Please help. Also, has anyone tried the whitening peel off mask? is it worth it? Joseibi, since you praised about the SKII mask, would you mind letting me know what kind of mask you used, and what effects you get from it, and how long does the result last? I was looking into SKII mask too but don’t know which one is good. Is there any other mask that;s cheaper but the result is comparable to SKII? Thanks

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    • Joseibi
      October 13, 2010 at 12:13 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Tuyet,

      Thanks for coming!

      You would use the essence and then the cream. I haven’t tried the peel off mask though.

      For SKII Facial Treatment Mask – the results are pretty much instantaneous. I have dehydration lines on my forehead, and after using the mask, the lines are plumped and become invisible. Although it doesn’t claim to have whitening effects, I do find that it brightens (not whiten) my forehead (probably because it hydrates so deeply and so well, it even changes my skin tone for the better) quite a bit and the overall skin tone is brighter, skin is well hydrated, but no breakout (it is not greasy).

      I have used a lot of cloth essence masks, but none had this kind of effect (long term or short term). My main problem is dehydration so for me, the SKII mask worked well. Their whitening mask didn’t work so well by the way – just the Facial Treatment Mask worked perfectly for me. :)

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  9. Tuyet Ngo
    October 7, 2010 at 5:29 am (4 years ago)

    To Phoebe,
    I used to have severe acne, tried a lot of antibiotic cream/pills, nothing worked, My skin was super greasy and oily. But after taking Yasmin OTC, doxycycline and retin-a micro cream, after 4 months, all my acne were gone, my skin turns from being oily to normal, no shines on my t zone. I’m now 14 months into treatment, I stopped doxycycline after 6 months, because I didn’t have any more breakouts, so now I’m only using Yasmin and retina. I don’t even have breakouts during my period now, I haven’t had even 1 zit for very long time. My pores used to be really big, but it has gotten smaller now. I would highly recommend you try my regimen, Also, if you have the money, go for laser, you will get amazing result.

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  10. Kman
    October 7, 2010 at 6:06 pm (4 years ago)

    Hi tuyet,
    I use almost THE whole line of THE history of whoo, they said first use essence and after use Cream , do you also like it, i saw after à week using it amazings results on my skin. Really love it so kuch.
    Yes i also use THE peel of mask at first i dient know what to expect but after à gew. Time using this mask i really likes it when i have à pimple i use THE mask and after Peel off THE pimple is more little and not so red.

    Hè joseibi,
    Did u ever use THE whitening mask of sk2 does it really brighten Your face
    Xxkman

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  11. Tuyet Ngo
    October 8, 2010 at 4:11 am (4 years ago)

    HI Kman,
    I’ve been using the whoo cream for more than 1 week now, really love it, makes my skin really soft, I just bought the essence recently, How long have you been using the whoo product? How’s your result? I haven’t used SKII or whoo mask, the only mask I use right now is the Bliss mask, I’m waiting to hear from other users to see which mask works best to even out skin tone. Even though my pores is getting smaller, but it’s still very noticeable, I’m looking for products to reduce the pore, if you know of any, please let me know. I have been researching on Isa Knox pores skin product, but couldn’t find much info.

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  12. kman
    October 9, 2010 at 5:43 pm (4 years ago)

    i just have this for two month but i really love this brand. The result is amazing!! i really see a before and after results.
    i dont know any pore minimizer cause my skin is very dry so my pores arent that open.

    today i receive my the history of whoo bichup essence it say is a anti wrinkle serum, and i receive the history of whoo hwahyun eye and face cream this is also a whitening cream but with anti wrinkle ingredients. i also use their whitening face wash and the seol balance water and the intensive spot cream. sometimes i put bb cream on my face then i wash it off with amore pacific treatment oil and then i use my facewash, cause joseibi said its better to use a facewash after to remove all the rest

    didnt you see the dramatic results on your skin?? i really love the whoo brand but unfortunately their website is not updated like their asian websites, wish they do.

    greets kman

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  13. Smiles
    October 11, 2010 at 4:21 am (4 years ago)

    I started out the history of whoo line. And like all the users that posted the blog, The line promised what it advertised. Joseibi, the whitening linee was extremely fast in getting rid of blemishes and lightening the skin tone. I was lucky enough to have had the complete line. I used the brightening foam cleanser, brightening mask, brightening water,brightening serum, brightening peel-off pack, whitening skin balancer, whitening essence, whitening jinaek program, whitening lotion, whitening intensive, and whitening cream. The whole line took only 1 month for me to go 2 shades lighter. The star product was the whitening jinaek program and the whitening intensive! My mom also ABSOLUTELY LOVED the hwanyugo cream. She noticed a dramatic change in the youthfulness of her skin after using the product for 2 weeks! Amazing stuff, their chunquidan dam yoon oil, dam yoon eye cream , dam yoon jinaek and dam yoon go are really superb products for age 50’s+ I’m so glad that you have this forum for all the ladies out there to post their thoughts and reviews, thanks joseibi!!!!
    cheers!
    Smiles

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    • Joseibi
      October 13, 2010 at 12:29 pm (4 years ago)

      Wow, another confirmation that The History of Whoo works!!!!!!!!!! I am happy to hear it! Now you make me want to get the whole line!!! It’s reviews like these that really support a great brand like the History of Whoo. It’s expensive but so far I haven’t heard anyone saying it didn’t work!!! One month is amazing. I didn’t get that with Sulwhasoo’s Snowise!

      thanks again for your review, I am sure lots of people appreciate it! :)

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  14. Loanne
    October 11, 2010 at 2:57 pm (4 years ago)

    To Joseibi & History of Whoo Users:
    I have sun spots and/or brown spots on my cheeks. I have been trying very hard the last 3 months of lightening or getting rid of them. I used the Civant Meladerm cream in the daytime and History of Whoo whitening products at night time. So far I do not really see any serious results as claimed by the products. Have anyone heard of Civante Meladerma? Does it really work in lightening the skin, freckles, sun spots? By using two different kinds of whitening products at the same time, does it really damage or stress your skin? For History of Whoo whitening products I used the foam cleanser, balancer, essence, intensive spot, lotion and cream. Should I used the Jinaek program at night time to speed the process? Also I would like to know the difference in Jin&Quin and Jinyul facial moisturizers. I have laugh lines and forehead lines that I would like to get rid. Would the Jinyul cream be a better choice of getting rid of the lines. My face is a combination with T-zone slightly oily.

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    • Joseibi
      October 13, 2010 at 12:37 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Loanne,

      From my experience it is not easy to get rid of freckles! I have not heard of Civant Meladerm so unfortunately I can’t give you any feedback on that.

      If you want quick results, the program will work faster (it’s more intensive) – but also remember to use a very high SPF (minimum SPF30) daily, even if you are indoor. :)

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      • Zhya
        October 10, 2014 at 10:38 am (2 weeks ago)

        Joseibi dear,

        its really REALLY differs. :( I adress this for acne prone skin. one clinic says not to massage, scrub and mask (in acne prone skin, the poresa are big so the micro particals of them left in the pores and making acne)

        many said not to wear any spf (the higher the worser).

        no peeling, but one say do peeling.

        do exfoliate the skin bc the dead cells block your products to abso
        rb to your skin, some said no.

        -no facial at all

        -facial for just the comedos, not the acnes

        -force whatever pops out of your skin

        it reaaally differs… heeeeeelp

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  15. Anonymous
    October 11, 2010 at 7:34 pm (4 years ago)

    Hi Emiles, like to know what is THE difference between THE whitening essence and THE brightening essence? And Whats THE name of THE brightening mask?

    So when u using THE jinaek program did you also use THE seol line?
    At THE moment i using THE hwahyun line this is also whitening but also anti aging, i find this more moisterise then THE seol line, additional after THE essence i use THE bichup ecssence,

    Now i like to order their luxery bb Cream did you alreaddy use their bb Cream?

    @loanne do you mean THE qi&jin Cream? I also using it by my last step skincare, cause i feel after this my skin is more moisterise and hydrated. Maybe i just immagine that but its feell and look good. THE jinyul Cream i not try yet i have samples but they said its for women over 40, before i was just like u doubting wich one i have to use, but for so far THE qi&jin is good enought. Id. You use THE jinyul line please let us know if its dramatical improves Your lines.
    Xxkman

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  16. smiles
    October 11, 2010 at 11:46 pm (4 years ago)

    Hello Loanne, as with all age spots, it depends on how long you have had them that determines how long it will take to go away. I have heard of civant meladerma, and before being introduced to whoo, i tried it, but it didn’t do anything for me, it did lighten up my spot, but did not make it go away completely, i used it for two months. It’s not a bad brand, personal preference is that I did not like it. The whitening jinaek program in conjunction with the whitening intensive really helped in removing my spots. It’s 90% gone! In my personal opinion it is better to use products from the same line and brand, but if you must, i don’t see a problem, just make sure to use a high protection sunscreen. For the Qi&Jin Cream and Jinyulgo Cream, Qi&Jin is much lighter in texture than the jinyul cream, Kman was right about the jinyul being for women in their 40’s+. I loved the qi&jin cream because it wasn’t as heavy or sticky like the jinyul. I would recommend the jinyul cream for drier skin types. If you want to get rid of your lines I recommend the jinyul, but like i said earlier it was way too rich for me, i have normal/oily skin. I hope that helps loanne :)
    Kman :), the whitening essence is much more concentrated than the brightening water. The brightening water is used 2-3 times a week in place of a toner. It really clarified my skin and helped other products absorbe better. When I used the Jinaek it was from the Seol Line. The hwahyun is the newest product from whoo, it used powdered jade, powdered gold and ginseng. To add more allure to the products it says that it uses court recipes from queen jahee which had skin of a 17 year-old even though she was 80. it is much more moisturising than the seol line. It is used for de-agin and skin lightening. In my opinion I don’t think that you need to two essences kman. I would use the bichup essence instead, because it combines gongjinbidan, kyungokbidan, and chungsimbidan, which moisturizes, anti-wrinkle, elasticity and evens out the complexion. I admire you kman, You are using all of these expensive stuff! I have tried the bb cream. It gives you very light coverage, but good moisturization. It also gives your skin this wonderful glow, and upon close examination your skin sparkles from the product. I hope this helps Kman, and I’m sorry if I have given any wrong information, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG JOSEIBI :D
    Cheeres everyone,
    Smiles

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    • Joseibi
      October 13, 2010 at 12:48 pm (4 years ago)

      thanks for all that info, smiles!!! :) You know more than I do when it comes to The History of Whoo and su:m37!! Your info will help a lot of people who are interested in trying out these great brands!

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  17. smiles
    October 12, 2010 at 2:17 am (4 years ago)

    sorry kman, the name of the brightening mask is “Brightening Peel-Off Pack” :)

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  18. Kman
    October 12, 2010 at 8:28 am (4 years ago)

    Hè smiles so you suggest not using THE hwahyun essence but use THE bichup essence?

    Did you also use THE nok Yong pack or THE yinjul massaging pack?

    Xxkman

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  19. smiles
    October 13, 2010 at 12:23 am (4 years ago)

    To Kman, first of all this is not a professional opinion nor is it intended to be, this is just based on personal experience and preference :) I would not use the hwahyun essence if you have the bichup ja saeng essence already. Instead save the hwahyun essence when you’re finished with the ja saeng, because the ja saeng basically does the same as the hwahyun. I used both the nok yong and jinyul essential mask. I love the jinyul mask better because my skin glowed after using it, while the nok yong pack moisturized my skin. I also love the soo yeon pack and song-i pack. The Song-I pack was really good for dispelling heat and calming you down after being in the sun for an extended amount of time. Hope this helps and as always anyone comments is welcomed Joseibi! :D

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  20. smiles
    October 13, 2010 at 7:43 pm (4 years ago)

    I first got attracted to the history of whoo because of the story of using ingredients from the royal courts, it uses the same ingredients that was recorded in the famed Donguiboam, (treasured oriental medicine). And since no online store carried it at that time, it added more allure prestige to the line. I was introduced to the brand while googling online for korean and japanese skincare. I really loved shopping at Joseibi.com! But at that time they only had information on it but didn’t readily sell the product. I boght my first whoo product at a department store counter in vietnam, Hae Yoon Go sun balm. I loved it, and from that time it kinda turned into an obsession with the brand. Sorry for all the jabber, but THANKS for the compliment joseibi! Really loved your store, now really love the blog!!!!
    Cheers,
    Smiles

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  21. smiles
    October 13, 2010 at 7:44 pm (4 years ago)

    “Donguibogam” sorry, mispelled

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  22. Kman
    October 13, 2010 at 8:29 pm (4 years ago)

    Smiles
    Did u ever use THE chunqidan energy cosmo ampul?

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  23. Kman
    October 13, 2010 at 8:57 pm (4 years ago)

    Smiles,
    Me again, wondervwhen you were using THE jinaek program did you also use your regular skincare regime, i mean did you also put essence and eye Cream and face Cream? And if yes what was the routine?
    Xxkman

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  24. smiles
    October 13, 2010 at 10:34 pm (4 years ago)

    Hello Kman, I’m glad you asked :) I’ve used the chunquidan cosmo energy cream and cosmo energy ampoule also, hehehe! For the energy ampoule it is a three weeks intensive program, it comes in three sets, 5, 7, 9, sets 1,2,and 3 each used in accordance to one another. It is used at night only and it rescues and retexturizes extremely dry skin. I find that it was too creamy for me, same consistency as the dam yoon line. This was my steps for the seol line
    Cleansing Oil (anybrand)
    Brightening cleansing foam (whoo)
    Brightening Water (whoo)
    Whitening skin balancer (whoo)
    Brightening peel-off pack (1-2x week) (whoo)
    Whitening serum (whoo)
    Whitening essence (whoo)
    Whitening Jinaek program (whoo)
    Whitening intensive (whoo)
    whitening lotion (whoo)
    whitening cream (whoo)
    Whoo hae yoon sun cream or hae yoon go (whoo)
    It took me 30 minutes to put on each time. I’m glad I finished using it. I hope this helps Kman :D
    Cheers,
    Smiles

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  25. Tuyet Ngo
    October 13, 2010 at 11:15 pm (4 years ago)

    A little off topic here, but since everyone here are helpful, I would like to get some help on finding a good product to rescue my damaged lips. I have chronic dry and chapping lips, my upper lip is discolored turning into brown color, while my lower lip is still pink but very wrinkled. The sebacious gland on my upper lips also dilate, showing through as tiny white dots. Is there any lip product out there that’s known to help reproduce collagen, exfoliate regenerate to help my lips go back to the natural pink and soft,smooth texture?

    Back to the Whoo line, as I have mentioned above, I’m currently using Whoo seol whitening essence and cream. My skin has indented scar and discoloration on both cheeks and temples, what products from the whoo line would YOU ALL recommend in addition to what I’m using right now? I don’t have the money to buy every single product from that line, I just want products that you think are amazing and must have as my staples. Should I buy the Whoo Bichup essence and Whoo jinyul mask? will those products make my skin smoother and glowing? I will definitely try SKII facial treatment mask.
    Thank you everyone

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    • Joseibi
      October 19, 2010 at 10:08 am (4 years ago)

      Dear Tuyet,

      From my experience, lip products don’t always work either (kind of like eye creams)…Kanebo Sensai has a lip treatment that Scarlett Johansson uses and that’s about the only product I have heard that works. I personally use Sulwhasoo’s lip treatment over L’Occitane’s Pure Shea Butter and found the combination hydrating enough for my dry lips. It will take time for damage to be repaired though!

      Boxed or textured scars won’t be remedied with any of these creams and essences. These products will lighten or some will fade the scar over time but only if the scar is not textured or indented. Any textured scars will benefit more from microdermabrasion but you will need to check with a dermatologist for the best course of treatment for you. With any scarring, hydration is the key – when your skin is well hydrated its ability to heal is much better than dehydrated skin.

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  26. Tuyet Ngo
    October 13, 2010 at 11:17 pm (4 years ago)

    by the way, I’m only 26. I have no wrinkle, I have bad problem with undereye bag, and dark circle that I can never seem to get rid of. If anyone knows of a good cream that will take away the undereye bag and dark circle, I would appreciate it very much

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  27. smiles
    October 14, 2010 at 2:45 am (4 years ago)

    to tuyet ngo, :) I haven’t used it myself but have heard from friends that Daggett & Ramsdell collagen lip treatment is great for wrinkled dry lips. At the moment i can’t think of a lip treatment that turns your lips back to it’s natural pinkish color, I think it’s a german based company, very reputable, I will post soon, as soon as i remember, hehehe.
    For dark circles, it can be the result of poor circulation, medication, or toxin build-up, they can also be hereditary. The skin in this area is thin, so the blood vessels lie close to the surface, giving it a blue-black tint. If the blood vessels leak, darker, even permanent, discoloration can occur. The professional way it to go to a salon and get a chemical peel, an extremely painful process. I also have heard of great reviews on Sisley Sisleya eye and lip contour cream. It’s supposed to lessen the wrinkles around these delicate area and lighten the dark circles also. For you scar and discoloration, you can use a scrub 1-2x a week, by doing that you are removing old epidermal tissues on top and revealing the new one underneath, like joseibi said it takes about 28 days for the skin to cycle. For the discoloration, it really depends on how long you have it, my mum had it for a long time, then she started using the whitening intensive from whoo, but it took her a good 1-1 1/2 years to it to get lighter, now it is 85% gone, but she also wears a high spf and avoids the sun at all cost like a vampire, hahahhehehihi lol. In my opinion tuyet, please don’t get the jinyul mask unless you have very dry skin. The bichup ja saeng essence would help with the wrinkles blemishes and dryness. But like all beauty products, keep in mind that it takes time to work, so don’t be discouraged if you don’t see any immediate results. Now whoo bichup ja saeng essence does advertise that the customer would be able to see results in as little as 2 weeks. Now like joseibi, i cannot stress this enough, use a high sun protection, and to prevent tanning, make sure it has the highest pa rating, which is PA+++, the levels of + determines the protection against tanning. This information is all courtesy of Joseibi! Thanks Joseibi!!!! Make sure to drink lots of water and get plenty of rest, because even the best skincare products cannot help your skin if you don’t take care of yourself internally. The skin oxidizes everyday, so that’s what anti-oxidant creams are for, but internally, your body also oxidizes, so take your vitamins and anti-oxidants for your inside also, and get plenty of sleep. I hope this helps, and if anyone find these information that I’ve provided wrong, please feel free to correct me :) Like always my opinions are meant to be professional ones nor are they intended to be, these are just past experiences and thoughts that I would like to share,
    I hope you find the right products Tuyet,
    I recommend the whoo whitening intensive, but make sure you use super sun protection. Don’t get the jinyul mask unless you have moderate to severe dry skin
    Cheers,
    Smiles

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    • Joseibi
      October 19, 2010 at 10:17 am (4 years ago)

      Great post, smiles!!!! I posted mine before reading yours. You are much more thorough than me! :)

      I also agree, with boxed or textured scars, manual or chemical exfoliation will help more than a cream alone.

      Some of the Korean eye creams can also double as lip creams (I know the IOPE ones can). Ironically, the IOPE Plant Stem Renewal Eye Cream worked better as a lip treatment than as an eye cream for me!

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    • kasie
      May 14, 2013 at 2:20 am (1 year ago)

      I’ve been using THOW of about a month now. I don’t see any results yet. If anything, I think my complexion got darker. Will use all my products and see what the results is- it may take several months since I bought 2 sample kits, which last about a month, and full size of the whole set. I spent over over $700 on all the products…I am using EVERYTHING except the peel off mask…

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      • Joseibi
        May 22, 2013 at 12:17 pm (1 year ago)

        Are you using a high SPF during the day? It is a must even if you are indoors. Otherwise your skin isn’t protected and you will get darker.

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  28. smiles
    October 14, 2010 at 4:35 am (4 years ago)

    I’m sorry I mispelled again ” My opinions AREN’T meant to be professional ones, nor are they intended to be”

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  29. Kman
    October 14, 2010 at 7:50 am (4 years ago)

    Hee smiles sounds like THE cosmo is THE best way for using in THE winter when skin is dry and harsh. My skin is dry and sensitive but now using THE whoo my skin is never been so good. Can not say enought positive compliments to THE whoo! But what do you think if I am alreaddy using THE whoo whitening products is it still helpfull to use THE jinaek program?

    @tuyet NGO did you ever use yube its à japanese brand but i read so much good reviews about it its good for hand and lips
    Your lips sound like winter Cold lips, maybe you can try yube its not that expensive, and its helping me. Its not à collegen Cream but its helpster with dryness.actually i recommend everything of THE whoo brand but if you like whitening i just like smiles said using whitening intensive for your spots cause my spots are not dissepear but much more lighter
    and i also like THE whitening face Wash.

    Smiles you are wonderfull giving so much helpfull information about THE whoo brand its really helping me à lot thank you.
    Xxkman

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  30. smiles
    October 14, 2010 at 10:05 pm (4 years ago)

    to kman, did you want to use the jinyul jinaek program or the whitening jinaek program? I recommend the whitening jinaek program if you want to have fast lightening results. It brightens your skin and gives a a wonderful glowing effect. You don’t have to thank me Kman :) This beauty blog is why we are here, to help each other out. I Big Shout Out To JOSEIBI!!!!!!
    Cheers!
    Smiles :)

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  31. Kman
    October 15, 2010 at 8:42 pm (4 years ago)

    I shout with you together for joseibi hi hi

    What is THE yinjul jinaek program omg never heard about it!
    Well i alreaddy using THE whitening products but i still have Some wreckles so i thought maybe using THE jinaek program To remove THE last wreckles away
    Xxkman

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  32. Loanne
    October 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm (4 years ago)

    To Joseibi & Smiles:

    Thank you for your response and answer to my questions. I’m in my mid 30’s and have sun spots on both of my cheeks. Half of them are about a year old and the other half about 5 years old. I have 3 spots that are really dark. I’m dying to lightening them.

    Smiles, would the Jinaek program helps to lighten it? How long did it take you to fade your freckles and sun spots? How does the Jinaek program works? Do I add it to my night routine with seol whitening products and at what step of the night routine do I add it? I’m confuse about the whitening serum. I ordered my products via USACOSMETICS.com and I did not see the whitening serum. Therefore I ended up ordering the whitening essence. Exactly what is the difference between the serum and essence? Should I order the whitening water also?

    Smiles & Joseibi:
    I have laugh lines since my 20’s and lately developed forehead lines. The forehead lines are the result of constantly lifting my eyes and eyebrows to apply the liquid liner to my eyelids. I addition I consumed lots of coffee at work to stay alive. Therefore my facial skin can be sometime very dry. I’m just confused on the j&qin & jinyul cream for facial moisturizer. I’m just caution of putting things on my face that would give me pimples instead of hydrating it. Does the Jinyul cream really help with the lines or essentially fading them? Also would it prevent any future facial lines?

    Joseibi: After applying the Meladerm whitening and Iope moisturer, I used the BRTC Jasmine Water BB Cream with SPF 30. Would this be good enough protection? I want to ask you about loose powder. Which powder is better that it will not cake up your face and does dry out your skin – Sulwhasoo loose powder or History of Whoo?

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    • Joseibi
      October 19, 2010 at 11:54 am (4 years ago)

      Dear Loanne,

      I am in the same boat as you with the freckles! I don’t have a lot but it is not easy to get rid of them! Mine are fairly light and even then, the products I have been using are not working.

      Thank you Smiles for answering all these questions. You are such a wealth of information!

      Regarding the loose powder. Even the Sulwhasoo loose powder, although when first applied felt very moist, will cake over time. I find a lot of the Korean base makeup rather cakey actually, more so with Sulwhasoo. I even preferred IOPE’s loose powder. The best I have used that doesn’t cause caking and keeps the skin moist is Shiseido The Makeup’s loose powder. It’s translucent (no color) and does not dry out the skin. Even though Make Up For Ever’s HD face powder (colorless) is made with 100% silica and claims to be non-cakey, it makes my skin very white, dry looking and feels dry too. Shiseido’s is far better. Applying with a good powder brush is also important too. when you use a sponge to press the powder on your skin it will cake over time.

      SPF30 is sufficient by the way, there is little evidence to suggest that any higher SPF over 30 will provide more protection than SPF30. the trick is to reapply after sweating, towelling or being in the sun for more than a few hours. For everyday use and you aren’t exposed to the elements and not sweating buckets, SPF 30 is great protection. :)

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  33. smiles
    October 16, 2010 at 9:24 pm (4 years ago)

    To Loanne: You are very welcome :) The whitening jinaek program is a four week intensive program that promises a lighter skin tone. It will lighten the overall skin tone of your face, including the spots. But the star product is the whitening intensive. It must be used day and night to achieve faster results. The whitening jinaek is used after applying the whitening essence and before the whitening intensive. The serum is very much like the essence. Both are highly concentrated in their ingredients. As of now, the serum is only sold in korea. And it is also discontinued :( The serum is a little lighter in texture than the essence, so it absorbs better. It helps other complimenting products absorb better into the skin. The brightening water clarifies the skin really well, but must only be used every 2-3 days in place of a toner. I would not recommend the jinyul line for you loanne, since it is recommend for women in their 40’s. Is is extremely hydrating, I’m afraid that it will make your face oily. I’ve tried juju cosmetics hyaluronic acid essence, and it seems to work wonderfully on lines on the forehead and around the mouth. You won’t see any immediate results, but take a before and after picture, then you can see the fabulous results. I would recommend the qi&jin line for moisturization in your later 20’s or early 30’s. I also agree with joseibi when she said the sulwhasoo firming cream is really good in lifting your face. I hope that this little information has helped you out somewhat loanne. :D
    To Kman,
    Hello Kman :D The whitening jinaek program just evens out and lightens your overall skin tone, but the intensive is the real powerhouse of the line. The jinyul jinaek program is a 21days intensive program that rescues extremely dry and parched skin, also retexturizing the skin at the same time. It comes in three sets of 5x7ml apoules, 7x7ml ampoules, and 9x7ml ampoules. Used only at night, since the skin has more time to regenerate. I recommend on using what you have kman, unless you want faster results, then use the whitening jinaek, but at a hefty $200.00, it is pricey. Hope this helps :) On a personal note, Hello Joseibi! Hope to see you on here soon!
    Cheers Kman! Loanne! Joseibi!
    Smiles

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  34. smiles
    October 17, 2010 at 5:18 am (4 years ago)

    Sorry I forgot to answer one question for you Loanne. It took me one year worth of whitening products and avoiding the sun to fade my freckles. There are littles ones still left, but extremely light. You’d have to be 5 inches away from my face to see it. I currently stopped using the whitening skin products, due to older products that i haven’t used. I have to use the ones that are close to expiring before i use my whoo stuff again. The whoo stuff is wonderful! Even though I’ve stopped it a year ago, my skin is still reaping the benefits from the products!~ Whatever you decide loanne, i know you won’t be disappointed. The quality of whoo is fantastic. Til’ next time!
    Cheers!
    Smiles

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  35. Smiles
    October 17, 2010 at 1:23 pm (4 years ago)

    To Smiles:
    Thank you for your wonderful info. It sure give me more hope that one day my sun spots would disappear.

    Do you use the whitening intensive on the spots and freckles only or do you apply it to the entire face? Also, do you apply it day and night or just at night time only? For the whitening Jinaek program, about how many time of this products that you order and go through before you get your overall facial lighter and even out?

    To Joseibi & Smiles:
    Can the Sulwhasoo firming cream be used on the neck too? I heard many wonderful stories about the Sulwhasoo ginseng cream via this blog/website. How is it effectiveness compare to History of Whoo J&Qin cream and Jinyul cream. I’m just trying to gather more info before spending one big chunk of money on a facial cream. Many times in the past I spend a hefty amount on moisturizer and later found out it doesn’t work.

    I’m trying to find a loose powder that will not cake up or dry out my skin? Is Sulwhasoo and History of the Whoo loose powder good? Which is better? Currently I used Shiseido loose powder but a few hours later it cake up and dried out my face. Then the facial lines start appearing on my face.

    Also, I’m looking for a good liquid eyeliner that are smudge proof, waterproof, and will not flake off my eyelids. I have been using the Loreal and Almay waterproof liquid eyeliner. But within a few hours of the liquid drying off, it also flake off of my eyelids. Therefore I constantly check my eyes to make sure the liquid liner are still there.

    I also have similar problems like Tuyet Ngo. I have dark upper lips. I would like to know a safe method or product that can lightening it or bring back natural tone of my lips.

    Are there any good legitimate websites in the USA to order Sulwhasoo and History of Whoo products? Smiles, where can I order or look for more info on JuJu hydraulic acid essence? Did it fade the lines and eventually got rid of them permanently?

    Joseibi and Smiles – again thank you so much for all the info.

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    • Joseibi
      October 19, 2010 at 12:10 pm (4 years ago)

      Oh, since Shiseido’s loose powder doesn’t work on you, then I am at a loss. How do you apply it by the way? A brush is always better than using a puff or sponge. When you press the powder onto your skin, it will cake over time. Sulwhasoo’s will cake too, although it feels moist on contact when you first apply it.

      Stila’s Smudge Pot or Bobbi Brown’s cream liner stays on my lids all day. Stila’s Stay All Day Waterproof liner (it’s a felt-tip pen) also stays all day without smudging or flaking. An eye primer will also help the liner stay in place – try Too Faced’s Shadow Insurance or LORAC’s eye primer – both are very good and almost identical in terms of ingredients and results.

      I have never ordered from the US for Sulwhasoo or History of Whoo, but I have ordered from daybeauty.com and it is run by Koreans. It used to be one of Joseibi.com’s rivals but I respect them. They are a legitimate business. Juju’s hyaluronic acid essence can be purchased at adambeauty.com – I have bought from them for years without any problems. Gooddealer.com also sells many of the same products (not Korean ones though) and they are good too.

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  36. Loanne
    October 17, 2010 at 1:25 pm (4 years ago)

    To Smiles:
    Thank you for your wonderful info. It sure give me more hope that one day my sun spots would disappear.

    Do you use the whitening intensive on the spots and freckles only or do you apply it to the entire face? Also, do you apply it day and night or just at night time only? For the whitening Jinaek program, about how many time of this products that you order and go through before you get your overall facial lighter and even out?

    To Joseibi & Smiles:
    Can the Sulwhasoo firming cream be used on the neck too? I heard many wonderful stories about the Sulwhasoo ginseng cream via this blog/website. How is it effectiveness compare to History of Whoo J&Qin cream and Jinyul cream. I’m just trying to gather more info before spending one big chunk of money on a facial cream. Many times in the past I spend a hefty amount on moisturizer and later found out it doesn’t work.

    I’m trying to find a loose powder that will not cake up or dry out my skin? Is Sulwhasoo and History of the Whoo loose powder good? Which is better? Currently I used Shiseido loose powder but a few hours later it cake up and dried out my face. Then the facial lines start appearing on my face.

    Also, I’m looking for a good liquid eyeliner that are smudge proof, waterproof, and will not flake off my eyelids. I have been using the Loreal and Almay waterproof liquid eyeliner. But within a few hours of the liquid drying off, it also flake off of my eyelids. Therefore I constantly check my eyes to make sure the liquid liner are still there.

    I also have similar problems like Tuyet Ngo. I have dark upper lips. I would like to know a safe method or product that can lightening it or bring back natural tone of my lips.

    Are there any good legitimate websites in the USA to order Sulwhasoo and History of Whoo products? Smiles, where can I order or look for more info on JuJu hydraulic acid essence? Did it fade the lines and eventually got rid of them permanently?

    Joseibi and Smiles – again thank you so much for all the info.

    Oops- I type in the wrong name, instead of my name, I type Smiles.

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  37. smiles
    October 17, 2010 at 4:42 pm (4 years ago)

    To Loanne,
    You are very welcome :) The whitening intensive used only on spots and freckles, it would be too expensive to use on the entire face. Now like all whitening products loanne, if you use it in the daytime, make sure you use a serious high sun protection with a PA value of PA+++. Since whitening skin products lighten the skin, without adequate sun protection, once skin is expose to the sun w/o any protection, it gets much darker. The whitening jinaek program I used only once. The firming cream can be used on the neck loanne, but if you want to concentrate on the neck, I highly recommend the sulwhasoo firming neck cream. It actually lifts up sagging neck skin! Extremely potent. Now the sulwhasoo ginseng concentrated cream is not as light as the qi & jin cream, but not as heavy as the whoo jinyul cream. It is right in between. I don’t like the ginseng cream, because it is still too rich for me. The firming cream does a good job in hydrating late 20’s to early 30’s. Now this may sound hypocrital, Even though I love the history of whoo products, when it comes to powder, hands down, I’d have to recommend Enprani S,Claa premium therapy pact spf25. It costs more than the history of whoo itself, but it glides on extremely natural and yet effectively covers blemishes, and it is hyrdrating. won’t cake up after a couple of hours. It feels very light and airy on your face. But if you want make-up advice Joseibi would be the expert :) I don’t use make-up. Just a personal preference :) If you want to try a cheap but pretty good way to lighten your lips, nivea pinkish boost returns your lips to it’s natural baby pink state. It works okay, the reason why it’s okay is because you have to use it every morning and night for at least a month to see results. I don’t order my whoo product from the u.s. or e-bay since i I am luck enough to have a friend in korea. The Juju Cosmetics hyaluronic acid essence can be found anywhere in the states. I usually go to sasa.com to get it, much cheaper there than anywhere else. The lines are gone when using the HA essence. It took 2-3 bottles though, but after that just keep up with moisturizing your skin and you should be able to keep those lines at bay. I hope that little info helped you loanne. I know that i’m not a professional esthetician or dermatologist, but i hope my experiences with the products can give you a better understanding for your skincare needs! have a great day
    cheers!
    Smiles

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  38. phoebe
    October 18, 2010 at 12:57 pm (4 years ago)

    Hi Joseibi and ladies,

    As you know I mentioned before on #1, I have mild acne. I saw doctor on last week. My dermatoligist said that I have mild rosacea. He gave me finacea gel, antibiotics, Avar cleanser, and Cerave lotion. So far it works well on my skin. I am looking for foundation. I am not sure which one is good for rosacea. I see some advertisement say that bare esscentual or Jane Iredale good. Please advise thanks!

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    • Joseibi
      October 19, 2010 at 12:18 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear phoebe,

      I am glad you got professional diagnosis!

      One thing I want to warn you is that Bare Escentuals and Jane Iredale (I used Jane Iredale before) can contain bismuth oxychloride, which can irritate sensitive skin. I introduced Jane Iredale to my dear friend – she bought the mineral powder and it broke her out. With rosacea, psorarsis, etc., it may be necessary to stick with medical brands. Some doctors may sell the brands that are safe on these conditions. For now I would recommend staying away from the mass market brands for now until you ask your dermatologist which brands/products are safe to use without triggering a reaction.

      I hope your skin will heal now that you have the prescription products!

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  39. smiles
    October 19, 2010 at 5:19 pm (4 years ago)

    Thanks for the compliments Joseibi! Eyecreams for lipcreams?, that’s amazing, I never thought of that. But it does make sense, since the eye area and the lip area is very much the same in skin texture! I learned something new today. Thanks again Joseibi! No need to thank me for providing info for all the commenters. I try to answer if I know questions, Since there are little infos on korean brands and products, it is very frustrating trying to find any information, at all if any. Have a Great Day Joseibi!
    Cheers,
    Smiles

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    • Joseibi
      October 20, 2010 at 3:30 pm (4 years ago)

      Nice to see you again smiles! :)

      I learned the eye/lip cream use from a Korean sales lady at a local Amore store actually. I learned most of the skincare techniques from her! Without her guidance I wouldn’t even be close to the skincare junkie that I am today. I love shopping from people who know their stuff! :)

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  40. Tuyet Ngo
    October 20, 2010 at 3:38 am (4 years ago)

    Thanks everyone for all the great replies and recommendations. Everyone has been so helpful. Joseibi, I just bought the Sensai lip treatment, I will keep you updated. I saw someone commenting about the sulwhasoo firming cream, could you please give me more detail on that? I’m 26, the only sagging skin on my face is the area around my eyes, puffy/bag eyes and drooping upper eyelids, should I use that cream? Also, have tried the SKII cellumination essence? Can I get some feedback on that? Thank you each and everyone of you.

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    • Joseibi
      October 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm (4 years ago)

      Hi Tuyet,

      Sulwhasoo is for older (35+) skin, and if you only have problems around your eyes, I would suggest getting an eye cream that will lift, firm, depuff and hydrate rather than getting Sulwhasoo’s Firming Cream. It’s quite rich and I am not sure that you need it at your age yet.

      The Cellumination Essence is next on my wishlist! I am hoping it will be sold on my flight when I travel this Christmas!!!

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  41. Loanne
    October 22, 2010 at 6:15 pm (4 years ago)

    To Smiles:

    Do you apply the Juju hyaluroinc acid essence after the facial cream or apply after the whitening essence?

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  42. Kman
    October 23, 2010 at 6:55 pm (4 years ago)

    Hè smiles, did you alreaddy get your secret court Cream and do you like it more then THE qi@Jin Cream?

    Ok i have my jinyul essential mask and THE nok yongpack, but how do you have to use THE wooden massage tool??
    Xxkman

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  43. smiles
    October 24, 2010 at 4:01 am (4 years ago)

    To Loanne, hello loanne, you would apply the hyaluronic acid before the facial cream, and before the whitening essence. The Juju is applied after toning your face. But you would want to wait a couple of minutes for the product to sink in before continuing on with your next skincare step. :) Tell me how you like the essence after a couple of weeks :D Have a nice day loanne!
    To Kman,
    Hello Kman! How are you?! Nice to see you again. I actually did receive my Secret Court Cream and it is better than the qi&jin cream. The texture is more thicker than the qi&jin cream but it glides on and absorbs much better. After a couple of minutes, when the product has time to settle, it gives a very nice soft and glowing complexion. I’m so glad you purchased the essential mask and nok yong pack. :) It is kind of confusing on how to use the jinyul mask, i’ve included the picture link so that the instructions are clearer:
    (link removed by admin)

    The picture shows you how to hold it correctly.
    Step:
    1. from the center of your forehead line the tool up with your face and pull the tool in a slow but gentle sweeping motion to the side of your temple, repeat for the other half of the forehead.
    2. from the first half of your face, where your nose begins, line the tool up like shown in the picture and in a slow but gentle sweeping motion pull the tool across your cheeks until you reach your ears, repeat for the other side
    3. place both your hands (index and middle finger ) beside your nose (where your nostrils start) and hold for approximately 30 seconds.
    4. from the bottom of your chin ( half of your face again) line the tool with your face and in a slow and gentle sweeping motion pull the tool up to below your cheek bones, repeat for the other side of the face.
    I hope this helps, but it is a little complicated with the jinyul tool, for the other pictures on the bottom of the link. That is the manual way of doing it without the tool. But since the tool is much firmer than your hands, it will give you a better lifting result! I hope that helps kman. Nice to hear from you! have a great day!
    Cheers Everyone!
    Smiles
    A big Holler to Joseibi also!

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    • Zhya
      October 10, 2014 at 10:22 am (2 weeks ago)

      Everybody helloooo! PLEASE HELP!!! :'(

      actually my skin condition just like above descriptioned acne troubled skin

      1.I read everywhere that for acne prone skin has to be the jasaeng PLUS secret court. but one said that for beginners just use jasaeng. bc the reaction is differs depend on one’s face, what do you think when it comes to my face? which one’s best for me, everyone???

      2.then one said that she apply jasaeng then secret court. one said she EVEN mix the two first then apply to the face.

      3.one said you have to sweep one line at once for quickest result.
      one said that we have to use ONE product at firrst trial not many products in once for knowing which one works or not or, and which one do troubling your face if your face got bad result instead

      4.I even dont know if one product can do good on my skin or not, whether its purging or its not fit me, whether the bad reaction I got is from this product or prrevious product and this product just trying to help me and its the process of curing me :S

      The infos are really really differs so its scrambled me up hahaha sorry if reading this too make you all as scrambled as me

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  44. kman
    October 25, 2010 at 7:23 am (4 years ago)

    he smiles,

    so the secret of court is in the middle of qi&jin cream and the jinyul cream?

    ok i try it, but do you know how many minutes have to use the jinyul mask?

    i desided not to use the jinaek program cause its also a bit expensive and the products i alreaddy use is even good and have the same results but after a longer while (if i understand your explination), i only have to be patient to wait a little longer to see my spots go away:-(

    thank you
    xxxkman

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  45. Tuyet
    October 28, 2010 at 3:09 am (4 years ago)

    To Smiles, Kman, Joseibi and others
    I’m so sorry I’m jumping into here again for an off topic, I really need help but I don’t know how to post a general message without going into here.

    I don’t currently have major active acne breakout, but I have annoying clogged pores on my chin, one or two on my cheek and forehead that won’t go away, along with that I have tons of white and black head on my nose and chin. I’m using cure aqua gel right now, but it still doesn’t solve my problem, Do you know of any products that are best at clarifying the clogged pores and blackheads? Thank you everyone

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    • Joseibi
      October 28, 2010 at 3:32 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Tuyet,

      No apologies needed! I hope this can help.

      Is your skin oily? Or dehydrated oily? Or dehydrated? Clogged pores can be a result of dehydration too. In normal, healthy skin (well hydrated and balanced), dead skin cells slough off themselves every 28 days – that’s the average skin cycle. With dry or dehydrated skin, this function is impaired. What happens is that the dead skin didn’t shed, and when you have a little bit of sebum, it combines with the dead skin and can clog the pores.

      Physical or chemical exfoliation helps, but if the root problem (if it is due to dehydration) isn’t corrected, you will keep going through this cycle and you feel that nothing works.

      I actually learned all this from a Korean friend who manages the Amore store (that sells Sulwhasoo, Laneige and IOPE) in Toronto. She completely saved my skin! One of the ways to find out whether you have dehydrated skin is after you wash your face with a non-drying face wash, towel dry and wait 5-10 minutes without putting anything on. If you have really oily skin, the sebum will be out by the end of the 5-10 minutes. If your skin looks and/or feels taut and uncomfortable, chances are you have dehydrated or dry skin. You can have combination skin with dehydation too. Hydrating your skin is half the battle won.

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  46. Smiles
    October 29, 2010 at 4:33 am (4 years ago)

    To Kman:
    Hello Kman! Sorry for the late reply, been kinda busy. The Secret Court Cream is in between the qi&jin cream and jinyul cream. You are exactly right kman! I don’t think you need the whitening jinaek program, it just speeds up whitening much faster. The jinyul mask, there is no time specified, but usually a mask is on your face no longer than 10-15 minutes. Anything longer will have no added beneficial effects. And you are very welcome!
    To Tuyet:
    Nice to see you on the blog again. I used to have white heads and blackheads on my nose and chin. I’ve found that Kose Seikisho Clear Lotion is the best in preventing and minimizing the blackheads and whiteheads. I’ve used it for years now and it still works to this day! For developing acnes and stubborn seborheic acne Biolee Dramatic spot is a very potent solution to your problem, on the first day of initial use, the acne is shrunk to half it’s size, by the second day, by 3/4, and by the third it’s competely gone! It is the first acne serum that i’ve tried in a trial of extensive acne medication that actually delivers results. Unlike other acne products on the market that contains benzoyl peroxide or salicylic acid, which your acne can get used to, biolee is manufactured using pine pollen extracts, one of the greatest skin purification ingredients. I’ve recommended this to friends, and now their hooked on this for life! This is my secret weapon, and one of the few secrets that people know. I hope this helps!
    Til next time
    Cheers Everyone!
    Smiles

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  47. hopeinablog
    October 31, 2010 at 9:37 pm (4 years ago)

    i love your site! its the only blog i could find anything about history and whoo and sulwhasoo.

    i have not tried history of whoo. would it be too rich for those with oily skin?

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    • Zhya
      October 10, 2014 at 10:48 am (2 weeks ago)

      Im beginner too for Whoo and such (high brands I mean). but what I sure is, Korean products are light and made from natural resources so not to worry about! :D even when its not fit to your skin, it woudnt make it worst cause the naturallll naturallllll natural of Korean products

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  48. Tuyet
    November 1, 2010 at 2:36 am (4 years ago)

    To hopeinablog
    I’m using History of WHoo whitening essence and cream, it’s not rich at all, it absorb into the skin immediately and feels like a silky powder, won’t make your face shine, provides immediate result, intermediate result is seen within 2+ weeks. I like it very much

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  49. hopeinablog
    November 1, 2010 at 2:54 pm (4 years ago)

    what about their other stuff? im not really into whitening at the moment,

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  50. Tuyet
    November 2, 2010 at 2:30 am (4 years ago)

    I don’t know about their other products, because My main purpose was whitening

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  51. Hopeinablog
    November 2, 2010 at 7:00 pm (4 years ago)

    have u heard of suiskin? http://www.suiskin.co.kr/main/main.php
    i have a korean friend that swears by the brand
    anyone familiar w it?

    [Edited by admin: no URLs in username please]

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  52. Anonymous
    November 28, 2010 at 10:22 pm (4 years ago)

    Ok Guys which Cream do you like more? THE secret court Cream or THE qi&jin Cream? I uses both but like to know what your experience is?xxxkman

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    • Zhya
      October 10, 2014 at 10:52 am (2 weeks ago)

      yes, I want to know that too! someone said that jasaeng+qijin for the acne (jasaeng first, for some weeks)

      other said its wild ginseng ampoule.

      but yeah, most said it must be the secret court cream that is the twin of jasaeng hahaha

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  53. Joe
    December 12, 2010 at 9:54 am (4 years ago)

    Hi joseibi, i just recently bought the history of whoo jinaek whitening kit. Being a loyal fans of sk-II, i already had the complete whitening series. The whoo consultant, told me it is okay to combine it with sk-II whitening products… But of course, for ultimate result ( i have severe freckles on my both cheeks) , it is advisable to buy the whole whitening whoo series. I need comments on this matter please? should i just combine it, or purchase the whoo series? Or maybe Could u recommend the few must have items for faster result? Thanks :)

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    • Joseibi
      December 13, 2010 at 1:30 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Joe,

      Welcome! :)

      I find myself in your situation half the time when I mix and match different brands hehehe. Right now I am using the Whoo Whitening line plus Whoo Hwayun Cream over the whitening cream since I needed the extra moisture, but basically I am trying the Seol line exclusively to see whether the results are good (which they are so far). I don’t see any problems mixing and matching but when it comes to whitening I do find a better synergy from the same line of products. It does put you in a dilemma because you already have the SKII stuff, but now that you bought the Jinaek program, it’s a nice addition as a treatment product. I don’t see any problem with that actually, it’s mostly your own preference too.

      From the Whoo whitening line up, I do find that the Jinaek program, essence and cream are working very well. The whitening intensive hasn’t faded my individual freckles yet – jury is still out on that item. If you have it in your budget I would advise getting the Whoo line to use together with the Jinaek program, but if you don’t, it’s perfectly ok to mix with your SKII whitening series. Just remember to wear a minimum of SPF30 everyday even if you are indoors! :)

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  54. Nguyen
    January 8, 2011 at 6:09 am (4 years ago)

    Hi Smile,
    I’m currently using the Whitening line of the history of Whoo. I’ve just begun to use it, but I just wonder can I use the cleanser, the balancer and the Whitening Jinaek program and don’t use any other things (such as whitening water, essence ect.) I have oil skin, so I’m afraid it’s gonna make my skin oilier if I use lotion and cream. Also, it’s really expensive.
    So, again, can I just use those three alone? or do I need to add anything else to the line?
    Thank you!

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  55. Krystal
    January 15, 2011 at 9:54 pm (4 years ago)

    Hello Joseibi,
    May i ask where can you purchase Whoo’s products in Canada?

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  56. Kev. Jang
    January 16, 2011 at 1:02 am (4 years ago)

    Krystal, if you are in Toronto, there is a Whoo outlet down at the Korean supermarket along Christie. The Korean “shik-poom” (market) is the biggest one in the Koreatown area in downtown Toronto, Bloor and christie stop, and the second floor of the supermarket is a cosmetics store which sells Whoo, Coreana, LG Say, Charmzone and Sanghwang cosmetics. I used to get things from there when I lived in Toronto. Hope that it helps!

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    • Joseibi
      January 17, 2011 at 2:26 pm (4 years ago)

      You have a great memory!

      I think it’is P.A.T. supermarket. I used to go there a lot when I used to sell on joseibi.com and when i am out of stock I take a trip there to get some quick stock! :P

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  57. Kev. Jang
    January 16, 2011 at 1:08 am (4 years ago)

    Hi Joseibi, I was reading some of the remarks about Secret Court Cream by Whoo. it is a product which probably costs more than it should be on American retail sites, since on Gmarket, it is sold around 64,900 won! But how did you find the texture? Is it balmy like a kind of oil? Or does it feel like a cream? Also, about the effects, is it more moisturizing than whitening? How often do you think it should be used? I read a little about it and it was stated that it can be applied whenever to alleviate problems like dryness, spots and so on. I started developing drier skin over the last few months partially because of my change of environment and the stress of my lifestyle.

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    • Joseibi
      January 17, 2011 at 2:31 pm (4 years ago)

      Actually, the texture is halfway between a balm and a souffle cream. I found it to be exactly like Carol’s Daughter’s body souffle if anyone has ever used that one (Sephora sells it)!! It’s close to Hwa Hyun’s cream. I believe you when you said it’s probably overpriced. I had a bunch of them in samples so at least I didn’t pay full price for it though! The effects – no whitening at all, but hydrating. It makes my dry skin very soft and moist when I wake up in the morning (usually nothing really lasts overnight for me). I think you can use it as often as you want, because I have rather dry skin, I dont’ find it to be oily at all, but I think for people with normal, oily or combination skin, maybe only at night and not too thick. It’s a very nice moisturizer nonetheless, hydrates just as well as Hwa Hyun Cream but less expensive.

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  58. Krystal
    January 16, 2011 at 12:48 pm (4 years ago)

    Kev. Jang, thanks so much…. that’s really help :)

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  59. Kev Jang
    January 27, 2011 at 1:23 am (4 years ago)

    Ah, Secret Court Cream sounds like a good cream to invest in via Gmarket purchase when I am done with my skincare set! Its packaging is so pretty. I imagine that it can be given to family members when they travel, if the container’s contents are used up, to keep small dollops of cream or lotion inside! Plus the price of 64,000won seems quite cheap online compared to other North american sites’ prices.

    O yes, PAT supermarket’s section of cosmetics on the 2nd floor is quite well stocked surprisingly on LG cosmetics and various other brands such as Sanghwang and Charmzone. Rodeo Cosmetics in LA down in Koreatown too. The latter is twice the size of PAT Supermarket’s store!

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  60. Kev Jang
    January 28, 2011 at 9:50 am (4 years ago)

    Hi Tuyet,

    About your scars, since you mentioned them, I think that finding a dermatologist would be the best way to deal with them. Any form of cosmetic treatment is rather minimal in terms of effect, no matter how good the products, and the most effective and fastest method is still the dermatologist. What he or she would normally recommend for mild scars is normally a peel or some form of exfoliant such as Vitamin A-derivative or melanic acid or something of that sort. This actually fades the scars relatively fast. On the other hand, about your personal lifestyle, you should find a good oil-free sunscreen or sunblock of at least SPF30 and above, and make sure that you constantly stay protected from the sun at all times. That will help to protect the results of any visit to the dermatologist or skin doctor.

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    • Zhya
      October 10, 2014 at 11:03 am (2 weeks ago)

      when visiting the dermatologist, she’ll lead us to use her products :'( which I dont want. I just wantto know my real skin type, or maybe Im allergic to smth? and getting the pills to consume.

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  61. anon
    March 20, 2011 at 9:49 am (4 years ago)

    hi, i’d like to know if anyone got a breakout form using the history of whoo seol line? would it irritate pimples?

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    • Joseibi
      March 21, 2011 at 11:04 am (4 years ago)

      None that I have heard of, anon, it’s not an oily line (it’s not hydrating enough for my dry skin) and so far no reports of breakouts, most users are pretty happy! :) The Seol line, that is.

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  62. anon
    March 22, 2011 at 7:43 am (4 years ago)

    thanks for replying!
    do you think the brightening water is really necessary? i’m thinking of getting the whole line except for the brightening water. if i get the whole line, can u let me know in which order do i use the productS?
    do you also have a swatch for the brightening base?
    http://www.whoo.co.kr/global/english/product/seol_pdt11.html
    thank you:)

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    • Joseibi
      March 24, 2011 at 3:58 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear anon,

      The Brightening Water is like a primer, it exfoliates before you use the toner, and the rest, I didn’t see any difference at all without it, it’s more worthwhile to invest in the toner, essence, emulsion, peel off pack, cream, etc. in my opinion. If you get the whole line, after cleansing, (brightening water if you use it) -> toner ->essence ->lotion ->whitening intensive ->cream. If you use the peel off pack, you would use it after toner. If your skin is dry (like mine), you can put some lotion on and then apply the mask because the mask is rather drying and can be uncomfortable if you have drier skin, but it does whiten instantly so it’s worth it.

      The brightening base I have not tried (from the Seol line) though, so unfortunately I don’t know if I can give you any tips what it looks like.

      It’s a great line, effective in whitening, not hydrating enough for dry skin but for the results it is worthwhile! :)

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  63. New Friend
    March 22, 2011 at 9:25 pm (4 years ago)

    Hi everyone,
    I came across this site and enjoyed reading all the comments about this wondeful “Whoo” product for many of you are going through the same skin problems I am. Here’s a small history of myself. I’m 30 years old and have been having skin problems my entire life, mostly acne and the scars from it. For some miraculous reason, maybe due to aging, my ance has faded a great deal, only one or two small ones every other week or so. However, I’m still left with the scarring and red marks of past pimples. To add to the issues, I’m beginning to notice fine lines around my mouth and eyes and deeper frown lines on my forehead. I do not use any major skin care products, just the over-the-counter stuff. I think it’s time to invest in the real deal and I think the History of Whoo sounds very promising. I searched online (I’m not an online shopper expert) and went to a Korean store close to where I live but to no success. I don’t know where to get these products. Could someone tell me where to get them and which line to try out fist, since there are quite a few lines to the History of Whoo? Thank you very much in advance.

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    • Joseibi
      March 24, 2011 at 4:15 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear New Friend,

      You may have dehydrated skin, just reading your descriptions reminded me of myself in my 20s! The acne products dry out your skin. The fine lines are dehydration lines and a lot of people who use acne products have them too. I was lucky to meet Korean people in my mid 20s who introduced me to Korean products and my skin had been clear ever since, though I still fight dehydration!

      The History of Whoo’s Seol (brightening) line will clear out your skin (whitens – fades acne scars and marks), but I am assuming your skin is dehydrated and based on your age, you may also want to add a hydrating cream at the end, to fight the lines. Sulwhasoo has good creams – or you can go with some cheaper ones within the Korean brands too.

      There are many who sell The History of Whoo, you can try becleo.com (go to hopeinablog.wordpress.com – I think they have a special discount code for hopeinablog readers), daybeauty.com, evecare.com, there are a lot more selling this brand online, just beware of where the seller is though. I don’t know where you live, if possible it’s better to shop in person and the saleslady will usually tell you (rather accurately – esp. the Korean sales staff) what you need. :)

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  64. New Friend
    March 24, 2011 at 5:25 pm (4 years ago)

    Joseibi,
    Thank you for your input. I will try the History of Whoo Seol line as you suggested. As you mentioned above, I would like to shop in person but I live in Minnesota. Do you know of any store, either in Minnesota or in the states near by MN, that I could make my purchase in person? I really do not like to shop on-line. Speaking of Sulwhasoo hydrating cream, do you have a particular name for the cream? I looked it up and, like the History of Whoo, Sulwhasoo has several lines of skin care products. I haven’t looked but do stores like Macy carry these Korean products? Sorry, I’m quite ignorant when it comes to beauty products.

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    • Joseibi
      March 25, 2011 at 4:13 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear New Friend,

      I don’t know any stores near where you live where you can find Sulwhasoo or Whoo, unfortunately, but I know that Bergdorf Goodman (if you have one in your area) carries a limited number of Sulwhasoo products. The cheapest cream in the Sulwhasoo lineup is the Firming Cream (US$90), which is a good place to start. If you can afford it, I would advise getting the basic 3 steps: Herb Soap, Balancing Water and Balancing Emulsion. It’s a great regime. :)

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  65. Nepal
    March 25, 2011 at 11:15 pm (4 years ago)

    Hello!! Love your blog. I wanted some advice please. I have oily skin that is dehydrated. I wanted to whiten and brighten my skin – could you please recommend what would be best for my sensitive skin (I am allergic to honey, pollen stuff and mineral oil) – an overall system that would address these issues. Also, what is a good eye cream – I want to lighten my undereye area and address the bags (don’t have wrinkles yet thank God!!) – I’m in my late thirties and want to keep everything looking good. Thanks a lot!!

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    • Joseibi
      March 28, 2011 at 12:45 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Nepal,

      Welcome and thanks for coming!

      Dehydrated oily skin that needs whitening – you can try The History of Whoo’s Seol line which is great at whitening (I did not see mineral oil on the ingredient list). You can also use a water-based cream to keep your skin hydrated without oiliness. The History of Whoo’s Soo Yeon cream is a good one (very hydrating but not rich). su:m37’s Water Full line is great too, and su:m37 is good for sensitive skin since it has no added fragrance or parabens.

      Eye creams are often a hit or miss though, with your particular sensitivity I am not sure what to suggest that will take the bags away. Shiseido’s Benefiance eye cream is good for bags but it has fragrance and petrolatum which you may be allergic to (I am). You are most likely looking at something that will depuff – something that contains caffeine to drain the fluids. I had tried The History of Whoo’s Hwanyugo eye cream that did wonders but it’s crazy expensive so if you can get a tiny sample it may be worth a try. It took away my dark circles (nongenetic though, just from lack of sleep) in a couple of nights.

      The History of Whoo’s Ja Seng Bichup essence is good but I suspect it may contain honey. Your best bet is to get a sample (try gmarket, ebay, or in person shopping if you can).

      Other than that you are doing great with no wrinkles!! Keep it up! :)

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  66. Nepal
    March 25, 2011 at 11:16 pm (4 years ago)

    One more question – would the Bichup serum be a good one for me to try as well? any other that you would recommend instead? thanks!!!

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  67. anon
    March 26, 2011 at 6:26 am (4 years ago)

    hi joseibi thanks for the advice!
    if i also get the sk2 mask, i’ll use it in place of the peel off pack right?
    also, for the hwahyun eye cream, would you recommend to ppl in early 20s?

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    • Joseibi
      March 28, 2011 at 12:52 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear anon,

      If you get the SK2 mask, you use it after toning and before essence and moisturizer. You can still use the peel-off pack but not at the same time, it’s good to have a different type of mask, one to exfoliate, another to hydrate, you can alternate the nights when you use them separately. I usually use the peel-off pack once a week (it’s drying for my skin) and a hydrating cloth essence mask twice a week. I also use a peeling gel/scrub once a week too.

      Hwa Hyun is for people in their 30s, when you are that young (early 20s) you don’t need anything heavy duty, just good hydration and anti-oxidant, even Laneige has a couple of good ones for your age. :)

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  68. Maria
    April 5, 2011 at 10:13 am (4 years ago)

    I have been using history of whoo for more than 6 months. The yellow line. After giving birth to my baby I decided to invest in my skincare as my skin looked really dull. And yes I was very happy with whoo. Skin was well hydrated. But since moving to hk I wasn’t been able to repurchase and instead tried cosme decorte (Kose’s line) aqmw. My god in three weeks the results are amazing. Also their whitening Koji essence has made my Freckles (which covered my face during pregnancy) disappear.So I highly highly recommend the aqmw line. The smell is gorgeous, the texture is so much finer than whoo and I won’t even start on the packaging. Also I added to my weekly routine sulwhasoo’s whitening mask and it is amazing. So I think, I will try to finish what’s left from my whoo collection and stay with Kose’s for a while.

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    • Joseibi
      April 5, 2011 at 12:37 pm (4 years ago)

      Thank you Maria! Good to know Cosme Decorte’s whitening worked!! I used their eyeshadows before and liked them, but never tried their skincare. I will keep it on my wish list!!! :)

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  69. Bree
    April 8, 2011 at 11:37 am (4 years ago)

    Dear joseibi and all Whoo whitening users

    I’m really interested in trying this whitening line out! I have sensitive oily ance prone skin. I have some acne scars and discolorations. Also, I would want to go a couple shades lighter. Unfortunately, I can only afford ONE product from this line T-T. i have a question : which one from this line should I get when I can only afford one?

    Thabk you si much xx

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    • Joseibi
      April 11, 2011 at 12:15 pm (4 years ago)

      Dear Bree,

      I see your dilemma! I think you will need a minimum of two products though – the toner and emulsion – they work synergistically together so I don’t know if you will see results without the other. I saw results just using the toner and emulsion – more rapid results when using the rest of the line. The toner and emulsion were $150 CAD (including taxes) and the gift set I got contains 40ml cleanser, a little tube of the BB cream, small jar of the whitening cream and small tube of essence, totally worth it if you can afford it!

      There are other whitening products but it depends how patient you are in terms of seeing results, with Whoo I saw results in just a few days, full results in a month, but other products I had tried either take a long time to see any difference or no results at all…

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  70. Bree
    April 8, 2011 at 11:40 am (4 years ago)

    Prior to my above question…since I have quite limited $, would you still recommend me to try out a product from this line, or do you have a more affordable line that could give similar results?

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  71. Maria
    April 8, 2011 at 10:50 pm (4 years ago)

    Joseibi, if to try one product from cosme decorte then I would definitely recommend to put whitelogist spots concentration with Koji-acid on your wish list . I know you like SK II with pitera, then you will love this Koji -acid induced solution too. Completely sold out here in HK now, I used by bottle in a one month and then discovered due to the problems with production in Japan it will not be available for at least 1-2 months.:(( It ranks very very high on cosme.net site as well.

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    • Joseibi
      April 11, 2011 at 12:16 pm (4 years ago)

      Thanks, Maria, sad to hear about the halt in production though! :(

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  72. van
    April 13, 2011 at 4:36 pm (4 years ago)

    Do you think the hwa hyun line will make break out with sensitive and combination skin? because i had used it for 2 weeks, my skin have little bump and little red pimple. so do you think i keep continue use it or stop. thank you

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    • Joseibi
      April 18, 2011 at 10:29 am (4 years ago)

      Dear van,

      You know what, it’s not the first time I heard this, I remember a while back there were a couple of my readers that said Hwa Hyun broke them out too…if you can isolate the products to determine whether they cause the breakouts that would be great, but if those are the only new products you use and you got breakouts, then you can trust your instinct.

      I didn’t like Hwa Hyun that much to be honest with you (I reviewd the Hwa Hyun line separately), Seol did a far better job of whitening though not as hydrating. Seol is great to use during summer time though.

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  73. jasmine
    April 14, 2011 at 7:01 pm (4 years ago)

    Hi Van,
    I used hwa hyun essence & cream samples on my extra sensitive face. After 2 days, I have red bumps, when I stop, the bumps clear out in 2 days. I don’t notice any big difference between hwa hyun and the jinyul line (which does not cause red bumps)

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  74. Kev Jang
    April 15, 2011 at 6:34 am (4 years ago)

    From the sounds of it, the Hwa Hyun line is probably too cakey and tends to flake and cause breakouts simply because of its consistency. It probably is not meant for oily or combination to oily skins. Even Joseibi said something about it flaking on the skin because she did not warm it up in her palms, and if so, it means that it is kind of rich and can cake up in colder temperatures like Canada’s. It might work out in Korea’s relatively more distinct climate of 4 seasons, or a higher humidity level, I think.

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    • Joseibi
      April 18, 2011 at 10:44 am (4 years ago)

      @Kev Jang,

      The saleslady at the Whoo counter tried to sell me the Hwa Hyun line, because she said it’s for 30 something skin, whitening + antiaging, but another saleslady at the same counter (she posted here several times as ‘JC’ – Jasper Cosmetics) said that Hwa Hyun isn’t focused enough which I totally agree with. I generally find multitasking products end up not being good at any one area. The Hwa Hyun cream definitely cakes up on me, although poster Lala once commented that rubbing the cream between your palms seem to help with that problem.

      I am not too happy with Hwa Hyun either…love Seol a thousand times more! :)

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  75. maria
    April 25, 2011 at 9:47 am (3 years ago)

    just to report my findings on the whoo. So I have been using as I have posted the whole yellow line plus the ja saeng essence since late september last year. Plus the cosme decorte’s whiteoligist. So today at the cle de peau (shiseido) counter they made a thorough analysis of my skin with their computer which took like 30 minutes. So here is what whoo did to my skin:)) And I am 35 with normal to dry skin. The moisture levels were fine, the translucency of skin ok, but the lipids were zero. No oil left and therefore the protective layer of lipids on the surface of the skin is non-existant. I was flabbergasted to say the least. The SA said that maybe the products I used lately had a very high concentration of alcohol… And I thought that the face cream was rather rich. So obviously it was not enough for my type of skin…

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    • Joseibi
      April 26, 2011 at 11:50 am (3 years ago)

      @maria – you are the same age as me!!! Except my moisture level is not good, lipid is ok. I do find that some of those super rich creams (the two Hera creams that I had used) are just like that – they make you feel like they are really oily, greasy, but they do nothing for the lipid level because they aren’t really absorbed. I hate those kinds of creams actually. I have read that some of the ingredients are more proven to stimulate collagen synthesis (e.g. retinol, peptides, etc.). It is also true that a lot of the creams contain a high level of alcohol. It can dry out the skin as well.

      @kim – some of the estheticians do try to sell their salon/spa products too, I walked away with a bunch of Eminence Organics products and while they are organic, alcohol free and what not, they are completely useless…so I do agree, some of them have ulterior motives, and they aren’t impartial because they also sell products.

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  76. Kim
    April 25, 2011 at 12:42 pm (3 years ago)

    Hi Maria, may I ask where the counter is located?

    I once entered a counter a few years ago and they did the same skin analysis too! I was shocked that the products I was using didn’t do much for my skin (I was using La Prairie). I had the same problem… I had NO PROTECTIVE layer either and new wrinkles appeared, and I really didn’t expect that to happen… so I ended up booking an appointment with a dermatologist. To be exact, I used the White Cavier and Cellular Cream Platinum Rare. The dermatologist did a thorough skin analysis with this machine, and found that my skin is really firm for my age (46), and that I did not have any age spots (I did not wear a lot of sun protection before using these products, so the products definitely did some improvement). I don’t know about the Whoo brand, but the lady could be selling the products in her store. Just be wary… I had to double check and there was nothing wrong. FYI: the lady I visited tried to get me to buy her stuff… surprise haha.

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  77. Maria
    April 25, 2011 at 10:55 pm (3 years ago)

    Hi Kim,
    Of course, she was trying to sell me her products and very pricey ones too.:))like their new la creme worth of $500 for 25ml ?(?_?;) I was at the Cle de Peau counter and they have this device to show you the state of your skin. I will follownyour advice and book an app with a skin specialist. Anyhow, my cheeks do feel super dry lately like a a sheet of paper. So I have tried overnight the sample of the Cle de peau emulsion the sa gave me and yes in the morning the skin was still hydrated and slightly oily. Thanks for advice Kim. I am sure it’s not so bad as the sa potrayed it. She gave me even a printout with the graphs etc. To make it look scientific :)

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  78. Kev Jang
    April 27, 2011 at 1:24 pm (3 years ago)

    SA at cosmetic stores will definitely use their skin scanners to test your skin condition, but often, the use of exaggeration as a means to garner more sales is often an aspect of their strategies. After all, when you see the scientific scans and believe your skin needs more “help” from products used externally, it of course means that you will want to buy the products recommended.

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  79. roselind
    April 20, 2012 at 7:31 am (3 years ago)

    Hi….I really need some advice on how to use the hwanyu essence and cream together with my seol skincare….I’m new to site and hopefully to be able to get more info on how to use the history of whoo to gain the best result…I am 48 and I live in Malaysia …

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    • Joseibi
      April 20, 2012 at 9:34 am (3 years ago)

      Hi roselind,

      Welcome!

      If you use the Hwanyu and Seol together, there is really no ‘correct’ order regarding the respective essences in both lines. The rule of thumb is usually to use the thinner liquid first. So your order will be cleaner – toner – essence (Seol and Hwanyu, order doesn’t matter), whitening intensive (which is a balm like texture so you need to dab in a circular motion until absorbed), emulsion, cream (Seol, then Hwanyu, since the Hwanyu cream is much thicker and richer).

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  80. roselind
    April 20, 2012 at 11:33 am (3 years ago)

    Hi Joseibi…tq so much for the detailed explanation on how to use my history of whoo…appreciated it a lot…been using seol but not hydrating enough for my skin after the co2 fractional laser treatment, hopefully hwanyu will help to solve the problem…will post after a couple of weeks ..

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    • Joseibi
      April 30, 2012 at 12:30 pm (2 years ago)

      Hi Roselind,

      That was my issue with Seol as well (not hydrating enough)…it is definitely not hydrating enough if you are past 30 or if you have dry skin. Hwanyu is very rich so hopefully it will help. Don’t forget you can now post your own review – it will be good to know whether it works for you! :)

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  81. Clara
    March 28, 2013 at 9:01 pm (2 years ago)

    Hello joseibi and all the informative ladies here,

    First i wanna say i love this blog, i really do lol. Thank u for all the resources and reviews on brands like the history of whoo and sulwhasoo.

    I am 25 years old, fair-skinned, my skin type is normal to combination. Right now my regime is mainly using SkII facial treatment essence, FT repair C alternating with cellumination, and i am using laneige water bank gel cream as moisturizer on my cheeks and forehead, and im using etude house ac gel lotion on my sebum rich area. I also exfoliate and using mask sheet and clay mask twice a week respectively. So far, my skin is okay, pretty much problem free beside the stubborn blackheads.

    I have been reading some review on the history of whoo and eager to try it out. I have been interested in using the hwan yu line and adding bi chup ja saeng essence; however i was wondering whether this is the right line for me? I am afraid it will be too rich. However i dont really want to use seol line because i want the anti aging properties in hwan yu line. My next concern is i read on a blog that when u just started using herbal skincare sometimes a detoxing (?) process will occur and acnes will sprout for a couple of weeks. Has anyone here ever heard or experienced that?

    I really appreciate any comment or opinion for me. Thank you all and have a nice day~

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    • Clara
      March 28, 2013 at 9:03 pm (2 years ago)

      Sorry, i meant the ” hwa hyun line” Lol

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    • Joseibi
      April 3, 2013 at 11:25 am (2 years ago)

      Dear Clara,

      Welcome and thank you for the kind words! :)

      It seems like you are already doing great with your skincare regime. You simply cannot go wrong with SKII FTE! The History of Whoo’s Seol line is good for skin whitening (tone and also freckles), but the Hwa Hyun line will be a little rich for you, as will the Bi Chup Ja Saeng Essence. You are very young and I don’t think you need to start those so early yet.

      The SKII FT Repair C has anti-aging properties, unless it’s not really working for you. At your age you can start with anti-oxidants instead of the more heavy duty anti-aging creams and potions, which may be too heavy for your skin type and age.

      Certain ingredients such as Retinol can ‘purge’ the skin – when you first use them, especially if your pores are clogged, those ingredients will have a purging effect and you may experience a brief period of time (a few days to a week) when you have pimples. Not all herbal skin care will do that, it really depends on the ingredients. Usually they exfoliate or unclog pores and whatever you have trapped in there will come out. I rarely experienced this to be honest, but I don’t have acne or acne prone skin so I can’t say for sure how every person’s skin will react to certain skincare. Some skincare, when heavily fragranced (as in many Korean products) will cause a reaction and it is not to be confused as a purging action – it simply irritates the skin and causes pimples.

      For blackheads I find a daily moisturizer or a weekly peel with lactic acid, glycolic acid or salicylic acid more helpful than using a clay mask (which is good for oily skin). Right now I am using First Aid Beauty Facial Radiance Pads (US$28) which work very well for me if you want to try them out. I use them 1x to 2x a week.

      Hope this helps! :)

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  82. zoe
    August 14, 2013 at 12:31 am (1 year ago)

    Hi Joseibi,

    Recently i bought the full set of the history of whoo soel whitening line.
    Can pls advise the correct step of using. i read so many review all different steps. im confused .pls help.
    Thanks

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  83. Miko
    January 23, 2014 at 5:58 pm (9 months ago)

    Hi, Joseibi:

    I haven’t come to you site for a while and wow, really love your new design! I really enjoy reading your blog and what you shared with your readers!!

    After reading so many questions about acne problems vs brightening, I decided to leave a comment and share what I found that helped me. (Yes, I also have acne problem for the longest timel!)

    I agreed with your recommendation, definitely keep it simple on the skin care routine until your face is clear up before using brightening products really religiously, because some whitening properties can sometimes causing skin to be more sensitive and leads the acne problem becomes worse. But since most of the recurring acne problems are tends to be hormone related, I definitely recommended to see a dermatologist and find a good aesthetician first.

    Dermatologist can help to determine what medicine can help, but most the case, it only will helps with 50% to my opinion. In my case, I tried at least 4 different types of acne medicine for over 2 years and nothing really helps until my family doctor prescribed me something called Spironolactone; I do not recommend for just anyone to use until they check with their doctor and their doctor also recommended according to their scenarios. When you first read into what this medicine does, nothing will sounds like its treating acne, but if you read further, it does helps with lowering estrogen level, like Yaz. So I took for 2 months and it stopped the majority of the recurring acne, then I stopped it.

    I still have small acnes here and there from time to time, but what I found to treat another 50% of the problem is how in depth you decide to find the roots of the problem and make some changes and learn to better takes care of it.

    Aesthetician can professionally treated more closely with your skin problem individually, they usually will recommend to extract the acnes that causing the inflammatory to help them heal even faster.

    The other method I also found to help myself is to see a herbalist which not everyone is familiar with. Im a firm believer on treating the root of the problem internally so you can lower the chance for it to come back again. My herbalist recommended some traditional methods like cupping, acupuncture and taking Chinese herbs like si wu tang, to promote blood circulation and reduced the heat in my body that’s causing the acne reflected on my face. You will probably wonder why this can help, but I think it has everything to do with it.

    Chinese medicine promotes a yin yang balance theory which explains when one part of your body is not internally balanced and is causing another part of your body to react to a symptom, in my case is the acne, and most of the time the symptom is just the surface reaction to a hidden root problem that you might not see. In my case, is staying up late sometimes to work with my oversea vendors as part of my job, and thats mess my normal sleeping schedule, when my sleep quality is not meet, it affects the kidney and other organs not be able to rest well during the sleeping hour, therefore causing my energy to be lower and my body become weaker, and produce too much heat internally that causing the acne. I don’t want to go into detail because I understand this might not make senses to everyone, but if you believe the same thing like I do, find a good herbalist in your area and get a second opinion will never hurt.

    Last thing you can do is to select the products that can help minimize the acnes. Although I helped a lot of my customers in my line of work with the same acne problems who use Shiseido and The History of Whoo and the same thing I always recommend is to cut down the usage when you have severe acne problem. Your first goal should be treating the acne problem first, then move onto brightening and anti aging later, take one thing at the time is the best when dealing with acne. But, if you feel the needs to continue with Shiseido and Whoo products like I do sometimes just to keep your skin well hydrated, then maybe cut down the steps and use one or two product instead of the whole multiple steps. This way, again, you are keeping it simple, solving the acne problem first, then take care of other specific problems later is more of a long term.

    My last recommendation is on two other products that helped tremendously. One is using a Clarisonic brush when you clean, it cleans 6x better than wash by hand, so it helps to eliminate with anything that will cause pores to clogged. Another one is using a vitamin C serum 20%, the strong anti-oxidant can helps to heal the acne inflammatory faster, eases the redness and fades the acne scars away. One brand I use is called OST vitamin c serum, its much affordable and delivers just as great results as the expensive ones Ive seen. It really does help with reducing the size of existing acnes, and visibly eases the redness, lightens the acne scars for me.

    To Joseibi and the readers, I hope this will hep answering with the acne questions and dealing with acne when using The History of Whoo or Shiseido. Joseibi, I still to hope to hear back from you soon, if you are interested to become a guest blogger to our new launched site, beauty east.com; I hope to share more relevant information to people out there that passionate of these products.

    For those who wonders who I am and what our business is, we are a small, family owned business that sells Asian cosmetic brands like Shiseido, The History of Whoo and O HUI since 1997. I see some major missing links of what’s available of these Asian cosmetic brands out there to the customers outside of Asia who want to buy them and decided to start our site since 2008. Although the available information have gotten a lot easier to access nowadays, but Im still hoping to gather more relevant information and products to better serve customers outside of Asia including myself who is also a big fan of Asian cosmetics :)

    Last, I enjoy reading feedbacks and work closely with some of the Korean cosmetic manufacturers. I welcome anyone to email me with reviews or if you are somewhat experienced with Asian cosmetics and would like to become a guest blogger as well.

    Best of luck to you all!!!

    ps. Re:Zoe->not sure if you have figure out the steps of Seol line yet, but without knowing what exactly you are using, I can tell you the basic steps are as follow, Skin balancer->essence (ampoule first, then essence or serum second)->emulsion->cream->eye cream. There’re arguments about whether to use eye cream first or cream first, to me, when you use the cream, you shouldn’t really use that much around the eye areas but try to avoid it. But, when you are using an eye cream, this is when you can pat or tab the eye cream around the eye areas to help absorb better so I recommend to use eye cream last.

    Thanks
    Miko

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  84. Zhya
    October 10, 2014 at 9:27 pm (2 weeks ago)

    I once read, for previously doctor treated skin, use jasaeng ONLY. then slowly continue with qijin

    do we have to have skin a break from doctor’s product to whoo?

    if we do facial at day, is it okaay to use the jasaeng at night?

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