Age Specific Skincare: 30s
Caudalie's Pulpe Vitaminée line is designed for first signs of aging.
When you are in your 20s, you rarely think about your own mortality and aging. You are invincible, always full of energy, and even if you stay up all night you don’t get circles under your eyes the next morning. Anything goes – makeup colors can be more vibrant, mini-skirts look good on you, and you can get away with a basic 3-step skincare routine.
When you hit 30, it’s a whole new story! Fatigue shows on your face even if you undersleep by an hour for one night, dehydration lines start to appear on your forehead, and lines around your eyes when you smile. That’s why it is important to use age specific skin care and makeup when you start this new phase of your life.
Lee Na-Young (age 31), former Laneige spokesmodel, has become IOPE's new spokesmodel for the past few years.
Brand v. Line
Some brands do different age groups: Clarins, for example, has products for the twentysomethings, thirtysomethings, and the forties and beyond. Some brands are devoted entirely to the 30 plus: take IOPE for example. It is AmorePacific’s first cosmoceutical brand and is designed for 30 and up – the next step from the younger Laneige – and serves as an intermediate brand between Laneige and Sulwhasoo. IOPE can ride it out all the way to the 40-50 age group like most of the brands devoted to the 30+. In general, as far as Japanese and Korean brands go, the spokesmodels usually reflect and represent the age group the lines/products are created for. The more youthful they look, the more likely the brand/line is created for younger skin.
Sofina Beaute, a brand devoted entirely to women in their 30s and 40s.
A Few Good Lines
Not referring to wrinkles, but some very good brands and lines designed for the thirtysomethings: (I have used all these before)
- Sulwhasoo
- Shiseido (Elixir, Revital Granas and Bio-Performance)
- Clarins Multi-Active
- The History of Whoo
- Caudalie (Pulpe Vitaminée, Vinoperfect and Vinexpert lines)
- Sofina Beaute
- SKII (Signs line)
- L’Occitane (Immortelle line)
- AMP InnerSignal
When it’s time to switch
The needs of someone in their 20s and someone closer to 30 are very different. At age 25, the body starts to produce less collagen and depletes it yearly as part of the natural aging process. Your regenerative ability starts to slow at that time and it is pretty much downhill from there. So if you are 28 and think your skin is ok and don’t need any anti-aging stuff, think again. If you skin starts feeling a little dry after your usual skincare routine (if you have been using the same products for a while) and you are nearing 30, it is time to switch to a line of products specifically made for your age group.
Shiseido Revital Granas is designed for women in their 30s and up.
What Ingredients to Look For
In our twenties, anything goes, but since aging is not reversible, it’s good to start using products loaded with anti-oxidants to prevent lines and wrinkles. If you have dehydration lines on your forehead (like me), treat them and correct the dehydration problem quick! Otherwise, they will turn into real wrinkles. In your 30s, you are not looking only at anti-oxidants but also peptides and products that will help prevent and lessen the appearance of the first signs of aging.
Aging Gracefully
Even though you realize you are no longer invincible and one bad night will leave tell-tale signs on your face (and under your eyes), it is possible to age gracefully. I cannot imagine going through my 20s again! I am much happier with my skin now than I have ever been, despite dehydration. 40 is the new 30 and 50 is the new 40. As long as we eat well, live well, exercise well and use good products, we don’t have to look our age!
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Cathy
September 18, 2010 at 7:31 pm (977 days ago)I love this article, so informative. I emailed it to several of my 30s friends. Do you have a 20s one, or a teens one? Thanks for writing so many great helpful articles!
Joseibi
September 21, 2010 at 4:13 pm (974 days ago)Dear Cathy,
Thank you
Teens and 20s – anything goes. You can get away with any waterbased products – but start with antioxidants once you are past 25. But other than that, natural youth usually prevails! It’s when you turn 30 that you will find a lot of changes to your skin.
vivienne
October 1, 2010 at 10:40 pm (964 days ago)Omg thats not true joseibi
im only 23 but already have fine lines & dark circles under my eyes.. I mean im freaking out right now. Btw this is a great site, i came across when i researched abt sulhwasoo. All of the comments on tbe topic are extremely useful. But itll take me some time to go through all those valued comments. Could u recommend the best eycream that actually works? Thank you
Joseibi
October 6, 2010 at 10:58 am (960 days ago)Dear vivienne,
Thank you for your kind words!
Unfortunately genetics, lifestyle and environment do play a role in aging too. I gotta tell you to get rid of the lines (hopefully they are not deep and just dehydration lines!) before you hit 30 or they will be here to stay!
Even though Shiseido’s Benefiance line is for more mature skin, I have really really dry eyes with fine lines (when I laugh) and the Benefiance Concentrated Anti-Wrinkle Eye Cream works well for me: http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P173620&categoryId=C16011 you can read other people’s comments and see that several ones are in your age group and find this product to be very effective.
I really hope it works! From my experience it’s hard to find an eye cream that actually works. Most are either too light or too oily. Once I found this one and it worked I never searched again.
Beautiful Canvas
October 21, 2010 at 4:46 pm (944 days ago)Hi Joseibi,
Been busy with wedding, haven’t visit your website in awhile. It’s nice to see so many new posts. I love this post as I am turning 30 this year. Yes, I am seeing the lines under my eyes when I smile now
I recently tried Caudalie Mask for Eyes and Lips – I love it! Very creamy and moisturizing.
May I ask, where is a good place to purchase IOPE and Sofina Beaute stuff from the US? Anything specific from IOPE that you would recommend? Thanks!
Joseibi
October 22, 2010 at 4:06 pm (943 days ago)Hey, how is it going? Is your wedding this year or next? Congratulations!!!
Glad you liked the Caudalie product! I am fond of this brand, though not as much as the Japanese or Korean ones. Still good!
IOPE…I am not too fond of this brand in general – with the exception of Sun Block White, nothing really worked that great for me. It’s a step up (age group wise) from Laneige, but I would rather splurge on Sulwhasoo, which works well, than spend less to settle for IOPE. Sofina Beaute works a lot better than IOPE! Unfortunately I don’t know any ecommerce in the US that sells Sofina Beaute – not one that I have purchased from before anyway. I usually get it from gooddealer.com, ichibankao.com, or adambeauty.com – I have been buying from them for years with no problems.
I remember a long time ago you asked me about an undereye concealer. Well, I will post this soon, but I just started using Sofina Primavista Essence Concealer and it is great! Bought it from adambeauty.com – US$25 (including shipping). My first time in 35 years I needed one! I know what you mean…it’s upsetting but I am sure we can age gracefully too!
Lala
October 22, 2010 at 7:15 pm (943 days ago)Hey Joseibi!!!! I know it has been a very long time, but I am so glad to come across your great articles over and over again!
They are so helpful!!!!!!
I am currently using The History of Whoo products! My Sulwhasoo products ran out, and decided to switch only to The History of Whoo! I actually bought two sets: Soo Yeon Cream set, which literally translates as Water In Cream haha, and the Seol Whitening set (The price killed me!!!!!!!!! lol) but I know it is worth it! Loving it sooooooo much!!!!!!!!! It really works!!!!!!!!
Btw, when I went to purchase the sets, when I told the SA there that I used Sulwhasoo, surprisingly she said that Sulwhasoo is one of the best brands out there, and that she uses it too! haha
But when I went to The Amore at Bloor to purchase some hair products, she saw my sets and started bad mouthing The History of Whoo. She actually got offended why I bought The History of Whoo and not Sulwhasoo haha
I guess it’s because Sulwhasoo and The History of Whoo are competing!
I read your article where you mentioned nanotechnology! I was actually informed by my Korean friend that with The History of Whoo, and I am not sure about the other Korean brands, that only the important ingredients are nano-sized, so some of the preservatives are not. So I guess it is okay… in a way? Luckily the ingredients were written in the back of the box, and there are BARELY any preservatives. It was basically all natural ingredients, with only two parabans and fragrance.
Also, one sad thing which causes dehydration is OUR WATER. Our tap water is filled with calcium and fluoride, even if it is filtered!!! It dries out the skin terribly! Not good for us dehydrated skin people
Unfortunately, I really don’t have time to wash my face with bottles of distilled water hahaha
Much love!!!!!!!!!
<3
Joseibi
October 28, 2010 at 2:51 pm (938 days ago)Lala! So great to hear from you again!!!! Welcome back!
Wow, another History of Whoo fan!!!!!!!!!! I cannot wait to use mine! thanks to a really really nice person who gave me a lot of samples, I can now use the whitening cream too!! among other things from the brand!!
Amore salespeople are super competitive and can be catty!!! I am not surprised at all!! In Korea the competition is even more stiff. You get grabbed by the elbow to buy their stuff!!! LOL
This nanotechnology thing is still too young a thing to know the long term safety yet. So far, there is no proof either way whether it’s safe or not. I am constantly tempted to use something I know that will work wonders, and yet I worry about some of the bad ingredients in them too. It’s a tough call but a personal decision – I won’t advocate either way. Sometimes I will ignore that little voice and go with what I really want!
Our water…I hear you. I really want to get the water softener!!!! Just bought an air purifier and that costs a fortune (I bought a Korean brand – just can’t stay away from Korean stuff LOL). How long have you been using your new products btw? I can’t wait to hear your feedback!
Glad you are back and hope to hear your reviews!
Kman
October 23, 2010 at 7:01 pm (942 days ago)Heer lala you finely back!
Wow now you have everything of whoo!!
Why you choose for THE soo line may i ask?
Its stll iretates me there are so less info about THE whoo products on their website, but anyway me to very Happy with THE products.
Nice to hear from you again
Kman
Lala
October 23, 2010 at 9:26 pm (942 days ago)Kman!!! Nice to hear from you too! I am so glad you like the Whoo products too!!!!
I chose the Soo Yeon line because it is water-based, and learning from Joseibi, water-based products is the source to many problems – dehydration, fine lines, pimples, pores, etc! It contains nano-sized platinum and silver which help with oxidization of the skin, and various herbal ingredients to restore moisture! Its new for me, so I wanted to give it a shot!
But I am sticking with the Seol Whitening line. I was fortunate to buy the whole set!!! The SA gave me a lot of samples, so I am just using them at the moment haha
Which products are you using Kman? Any new products?!
I know what you mean!! Barely any information, I sometimes go on the Korean website, but unfortunately can’t read it haha.
I am really busy, but I’m glad you, Joseibi and many members are doing great!!!!!!!!! <3
To all my skin care lovers, keep taking care of your skin 
kman
October 24, 2010 at 5:03 pm (941 days ago)heee lala
well at the moment i have the bichup essence and the hwahyun essence, eye and face cream and as last step the qi&jin cream.
now i am trying the luxery bb cream, and i received my nok yong pack and the jinyul massage mask, but i dont know how to use the tool, but smiley explain to me hihi:-)
i really like the peel off pack, and the hwahyun line is wonderfull its not only whitening but also anti aging!! its the same like the seol line.
actually i send you a couple of mails, but i know you are busy.
xxxkman
Beautiful Canvas
October 25, 2010 at 7:27 pm (940 days ago)Joseibi,
Thank you, my wedding was last month actually. All that planning and it went by in a flash.
Thank you for recommending the sofina beaute. I’ll have to check it out. Unfortunately, I can’t read Japanese so I have been a devotee to DHC for the last 2-3 years now because they have an English website and order is easy. Luckily, I think DHC is a good brand.
Did I ask you about concealer? I don’t remember =/ Sorry. I remember us talking eye primer. Anyway, looking forward to your sofina concealer review. The last year or two, I have been using Bobbi Brown Corrector and Benefit Erase Paste. The BB Corrector is for those with “serious” dark circle. The Erase Paste doesn’t conceal as well but it’s very blend able and smudge proof. I include links of my review in case you are curious.
http://beautifulcanvas.blogspot.com/2010/05/review-benefit-erase-paste-concealer.html
http://beautifulcanvas.blogspot.com/2010/01/product-review-bobbi-brown-corrector.html
As always, thank you for answering my questions and it’s always a pleasure conversing with you. Take care.
Lala
November 2, 2010 at 10:34 pm (932 days ago)Hey Joseibi!!!!!!
I hope you are doing great!!!
Omg, you are using The History of Whoo as well?!?! Which products have you purchased?! The bottles are a keep, so luxurious!!! haha. I am SO HAPPY you got some samples of the Seol Whitening Cream, isn’t it amazing? The lady there was really nice to me too, she gave soooo much samples!!!
Love Korean stuff Joseibi haha!!!! Don’t blame you!!! And I think its a great idea to get a water softener, I think I will!!! Thanks!!!
I absolutely love The History of Whoo Joseibi!!! It is a brand THAT WORKS and SHOWS RESULTS, and it actually TREATS your skin! I have been using these products for more than two weeks, and have been seeing results already! My skin is normal, but it does get really dry in the winter and these products have helped hydrate my skin VERY WELL!
For my morning routine I am using:
**I don’t cleanse in the morning, just wash my face with warm water**
Whoo In Yang Balancer
Whoo Soo Yeon Essence
Whoo Bichup Essence
Whoo In Yang Lotion
Sulwhasoo Rejuvenating Eye Cream
Whoo Soo Yeon Cream
Charmzone Albatross SPF 40++
I really love how moisturizing and hydrating these creams are, and they don’t make your skin look greasy!
The In Yang Balancer is a bit more runny then the Sulwhasoo Balancing Water. It is meant to deeply moisturize the skin and is recommended for people at the age of 30, but its okay if your young and you use it! Once applied to the face though, your skin is super moisturized!!! And it leaves a nice glow to your skin which I love! Also the In Yang Balancer has a very herbal smell. The Soo Yeon Essence (water-based) is meant for hydration. The main ingredients are rare platinum and silver to oxidize and 40 herbs to help hydrate. It is really runny, like water but a tad-bit sticky consistency. But once it is applied to your face, your skin absorbs it and your skin feels really hydrated. It makes your face very plump and moist! The Bichup Essence is very sticky, it really does have this essence feel, but it absorbs quickly into the skin with NO stickiness whatsoever, and it makes your skin VERY plump!!!! Since using it for 2 weeks, I have noticed that my laugh lines are decreasing! The In Yang Lotion is highly moisturizing, this is a great lotion for those who have REALLY dry skin. The smell is very herbal, and it is not thick at all, rather it is rich but when applied to the skin it absorbs very quickly – LOVE THIS LOTION!!! You will see instant results with it!!!
The Soo Yeon Cream (water-based), again, is for hydration. This cream is like a gel-type, and absorbs instantly leaving your skin SUPER hydrated. The scent is somewhat herbal and floral, but not too heavy! Your skin looks very clear and hydrated – this is definitely a buy! And the Charmzone sunscreen is just an ordinary sunscreen – it leaves your skin with a smooth finish, and NO white-chalkyness look!
The effects of these creams leaves you skin super plump, hydrated, makes your skin more even toned and you have this natural glow! I highly recommend the Soo Yeon and In Yang Balancer and Lotion for those who need hydration and need extra moisturizing!
Joseibi
November 3, 2010 at 10:41 am (932 days ago)I can always count on you to give great reviews, Lala!
Thank you for this review, I was just about to crack open my Soo Yeon Essence and cream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to find whether I got the Bichup Essence too (I think I have a few packets of it). I was just telling another great reviewer, smiles (who, like you, are a huge fan of The History of Whoo), that I am absolutely unimpressed and uninspired by the western skincare I have been using of late. I am like a prodigal son now, going back to the Korean and Japanese skincare!
I have very dehydrated and dry skin so it sounds like I should be very much benefited from the lineup you mentioned. I think I have most of the stuff in my samples! I have this super nice lady who gave me all this too, a whole box full of them actually. You know who you are – thank you so much again!!!
I used to sell the Charmzone Albatross SPF40++. It sold very well. There are times I sold out and had to run to the Jasper cosmetics to get it! LOL those good old days.
I liked the Sulwhasoo REjuvenating eye Cream too. I had it in a 7ml deluxe sample that came in one of those bonus sets (I bought a whole set of Sulwhasoo at the beginning of the year). It absorbed so well. As much as I have sensitive skin and not a big fan of perfumes, Sulwhasoo and The History of Whoo have these really pleasant herbal smells I have grown very fond of!
Lala
November 2, 2010 at 10:41 pm (932 days ago)I decided to only use my whitening products at night because your skin can actually get darker if you use whitening products during the day. However, a high spf: “+++,” will do. But I want to be on the safe side haha! Now let me tell you Joseibi, I am extremely amazed by The History of Whoo Seol Whitening Line, it is just AMAZING!!!!!!
For my night time routine:
Whoo Seol Brightening Cleanser
Whoo Seol Whitening Skin Balancer
Whoo Seol Whitening Essence/Serum
Whoo Seol Whitening Jineak Essence Program
Whoo Seol Whitening Lotion
Whoo Seol Whitening Cream
Whoo Soo Yeon Cream
Joseibi
November 3, 2010 at 10:45 am (932 days ago)I usually use whitening stuff at night too, even though with SPF30 PA+++ it should be adequate to protect your skin during the day. Between 10pm and 2am the skin does its best to repair itself so I always felt more beneficial to use treatment products at night.
Previously I have used only the Skin Balancing and Lotion and I already saw a difference within a couple of weeks! Usually, with most whitening products, I hardly notice any difference until at least 2-3 months have passed, and to be honest, most don’t really work! So I must say, The History of Whoo is very effective. The luxurious packaging is an added bonus!
Lala
November 2, 2010 at 10:59 pm (932 days ago)***Remember to ALWAYS follow with the beauty techniques! It really makes a difference, for example covering your face after applying essence to help absorb it deep within the skin. Also gentle pressing and patting techniques of creams on the skin, instead of applying it with harsh rubbing or large circular motion techniques. Leave that for oil massages as it will not stretch your face! The Korean SA told me to ALWAYS gently pat creams on your face and never rub creams on your face because it will lead to future wrinkles, also with sunscreen. And since your face needs circulation, do that with olive oil, or any other natural oil treatments!
Also Joseibi, for some reason it did not allow for the review on the whitening line to be published hahaha. But just wanted to say that ITS AMAZING!
Much love!!!
Joseibi
November 3, 2010 at 10:51 am (932 days ago)You are right on the technique! It wasn’t until I met the Korean manager at Amore I learned all this stuff – including the technique. I usually cover my face to let the heat help the essence penetrate better. In the past they used to have the Hyang Jyang magazine published by Amore (they still do but no English) at those Amore stores, and that little magazine always has a few articles they translated into English and that’s where I learned all these techniques. The last issue I picked up didn’t have the English translation anymore which is so sad!!! Japanese magazines like VoCE and Biteki teach the same techniques too.
The Clarins spa also teaches to press on the face with a cleansing milk and lift off several times to ‘suction’ out the impurities, which I find quite effective too. When it comes to techniques I find the Asian (Japanese and Korean) much better than the western ones.
Your whitening review – I thought went through? Or did it get cut off? Let me know hun!
Lala
November 6, 2010 at 9:22 pm (928 days ago)Hi Joseibi!!! Ahhh, Thank you soooo much!
I know EXACTLY what you mean Joseibi. I am NEVER and I mean it, switching to western brands. It’s totally out of my skin care product lists!!! They don’t seem to work. After using Sulwhasoo the first time, I realized that Korean products treat the skin, while western brands honestly don’t – it’s just temporary! For example Biotherm, ugh don’t remind me hahaha! Sulwhasoo has made a big difference in my skin, and The History of Whoo has made a significant difference. My skin feels and looks like never before!!!
Japanese and Korean skin care products strive to treat the skin, and its not temporary either! What I love about these products is that when you wash your face, your skin is still moist and hydrated, never dry!!!
Trust me, you will be benefited with the products! I hope you have a sample of the In Yang Balancer and In Yang Lotion, they are SUPER MOISTURIZING!!! How do you like the Soo Yeon Essence and Soo Yeon Cream?!?!?!?! I honestly love how plump and hydrated my skin is after using these two creams! I mean they have platinum and silver hahaha
No way! I got a full box of samples too LOL. She gave me a box of the Jinyul line, I gave that to my mom though since it’s for women over 40 (although I honestly wouldn’t mind using it haha), she also gave me some OHUI samples to try!
BTW Joseibi, when I was there, she was showing me all the special sets. There was one that CAUGHT my eye, it was $690 – the Hwa Hyun line. Ugh, it looked so royal. But they didn’t have any samples to try boo!
I agree with you Joseibi!!! I love the scents in Sulwhasoo and The History of Whoo, it doesn’t bother me either!
Joseibi
November 9, 2010 at 2:01 pm (926 days ago)Dear Lala,
I totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I just can’t wait to use up whatever’s left in my western lineup. I hate myself for it because with that $250 I spent on L’Occitane I could have gotten Sulwhasoo or The History of Whoo – one or two or more key products!! Darn!! Anyhow, I got a box of samples – from Ohui to Whoo to Sulwhasoo – they will last me a good 6 months I bet. Cannot wait to start!!!
Soo Yeon essence are cream are absolutely divine. They are samples so I can’t review them – but I have a lot of the same from the whitening cream so I can give a review on that. After this, why bother with anything else?!! I think I have finally found what works.
I also tested the sample of the Royal Court or Secret Court Cream – I believe this must have been made in Heaven. It was so great it melts right into my skin and the dehydration lines went away the next morning. Now I just need to buy the full size!
Phew! $690! It puts SKII to shame! But I am 35, I need to stop the lines before they become real wrinkles. Still, that’s a lot of cash!!!!!!!!!! I will need a sugar daddy besides my husband to get that hehehe!
(hope he’s not reading this)
Lala
November 6, 2010 at 9:42 pm (928 days ago)That is one main reason why I use whitening products at night! Also with many of my serums I use at night since our skin goes through repair-mode haha. The luxurious packaging is never a miss! You feel good using these products that work!!!
These Korean beauties know what they are talking about!!! Oh I should get a hand of these articles! When I told the Korean SA at The History of Whoo that I use circular motions when I apply my creams on my face, she was shocked. She told me NEVER to do that. Only with thick massaging creams or oil treatments, but never with regular creams. She warned me that it will lead to future wrinkles, rather to pat everything gently on the face because it will help absorb the products better. So that’s what I have been doing. But she did tell me that circulation of the blood is important, so massaging the face is key to keeping the skin firm and in tact – I always do an oil treatment!
Hahaha, I am not sure why it didn’t go through but I have a lot of great things to say! Since using the Whoo Seol Brightening Cleanser for more than a month, this cleanser is definitely a buy if you want glowing skin. After using it, my skin is immediately glowing! It is a soft-cream type consistency and it lathers very well. But I am also using the Sulwhasoo Cleansing Oil, and I find that this cleansing oil works very well in keeping my skin hydrated, but removing literally everything on my skin. The scent is very herbal which I love too.
Immediate effects with the Seol Whitening Skin Balancer!!! I seriously love this toner. It is like milk, yet watery but not too runny. When you apply it to your face, your skin is UBER soft!!! And your skin glows!!! Along with the Seol Whitening Essence and Lotion which have helped whiten my skin dramatically. I cannot stress how much these products work. Although they are whitening products, they are moisturizing, but if you have really dry skin, using a rich cream at the final step will do. I am using the Whitening Jinaek Program as well, I will review that after a full month! Also, I have mentioned before to you Joseibi about the Seol Whitening Cream, I absolutely love this cream! Bought my second jar because it is that great. It leaves your skin baby soft and dewy looking which I love – most importantly it really whitens your face, this one is A KEEP!!!
Well its close to winter, and us girls need to keep our skins looking fresh!!!! Hahaha! Could you please do a review of your products, I would loveeee to hear what you think and the results you are getting from using The History of Whoo!!!
Once again Joseibi, thanks for your blog and amazing articles!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3
Joseibi
November 9, 2010 at 2:06 pm (926 days ago)Dear Lala,
hehehe it is with the Seol Whitening Skin Balancer that I actually stopped using a cotton pad to apply! It’s so expensive and I want every drop on my face!! Finally I kicked my hardcore habit with a cotton pad with toners with this. When it is my Murad toner, which comes in a spray bottle, I still use the cotton pad though. (don’t care about that stuff enough
)
Wow, the Jinaek program – I still haven’t tried that yet. I don’t think I have that in my samples!
But another poster Smiles said it took out her spots in a month and I believe her.
I still have to work through my western stuff, which is why I haven’t reviewed the samples yet. I can only review the samples if they are in the quantity that I can use for one month though. Some just came in a tiny packet, some are in 10ml jar (very deluxe sample). I hope to review the bigger ones, or the samples that I have plenty in the same product.
Now I go through my western lineup and I am so bored…can’t wait to use it all up so I can go back to the Korean goodies!
Lala
November 11, 2010 at 7:51 pm (923 days ago)Hey Joseibi!!! Oh nooooo! I could mention so much amazing things you could have got with that $250!!! But I don’t want to make you feel bad! Ugh, when I bought a set of Biotherm products, literally Joseibi, was so irritated with everything I threw it away.
Joseibi where did you get your samples from?! I purchased my products at the P.A.T Supermarket at Bloor! Ah!!! Can’t wait for the whitening review, you are going to LOVE IT! The best thing is you don’t need a lot of the product!
Omg, the Secret Court Cream! I neeeeeed to try this cream. It has not reached Canada, but wait am I missing something?! You got samples of the Secret Court Cream?! Ahhh Joseibi I need to try this, it sounds amazing. The next morning your dehydration lines were gone?! Oh my!!! Did you get it at Bloor or the one at Young/Finch if you don’t mind? You are 100% right Joseibi, when you find something that works stick with it. Even though we all have the temptation to try something new, well when that hits and you REALLY want to, go with their other lines, like the Jinyul Line, or the In Yang line, or Whitening Line – don’t leave the brand! hahaha
You are still verrrrry young Joseibi, but taking care of your skin ALL THE TIME at any age is very important. LOL don’t we all need one haha
Love the Whitening Jinaek Program, it absorbs LIKE THAT* and I have noticed my skin has lightened. I think this product is speeding up the whitening results, but I will wait after a month to see the full effects!!! Can’t wait for the reviews!!! Btw Joseibi, one of my all time favourite products right now is the Ja Saeng Bichup Essence, just by the 8ml sample I got, I purchased the full bottle!!! I want to purchase a lot of things, like the Hwa Hyun line – hahaha
Btw Joseibi, I got a few samples of The History o Whoo Jinuyl Eye Cream – I have NEVER encountered an eye cream this amazing. With the first application, my eyes are bright, it literally lifts my eyes, and my eyes look open and not droopy! I think I have a thing for their eye creams now! Also Joseibi, the Soo Yeon Cream is amazing. I usually walk long distances, and the cold air hits my face pretty harshly, but I realized that my skin does not seem to get dry, when it did before using the cream. My skin is still moist and hydrated! Love it!
I am never switching to Western brands – I don’t want to sound harsh, but I don’t understand when people use Clinique, Lancome, Estee Lauder, etc, etc, etc – ugh, whatever lol. At least we know what good skin care is, and thankfully we have been introduced to Sulwhasoo and The History of Whoo
Much Love!!!!!!!!!!
Joseibi
November 12, 2010 at 11:49 am (923 days ago)Dear Lala,
Always a pleasure to read you!!!
My wallet and bank felt my pain of spending that $250 not on Korean brands!!!! It was an impulse purchase – right time, right place, wrong products! LOL The L’Occitane boutique was right on the resort and being the only beauty store around, I could not resist. I normally love L’Occitane body products anyway. But it is definitely no Whoo or Sulwhasoo!!!
LOL@ your comment to stay in the brand!!!!
You make me laugh. But you are so right. I will not stray from Korean/Japanese from now on. I actually prefer Korean skincare but like Japanese makeup better. It’s a good combination!
I have a friend in the US who got the Secret Court Cream samples for me. It honestly was the nicest cream ever – and I had used Shiseido Qiora’s cream which costs about twice as much as this, but Secret Court cream was far better. It seemed to go beyond just hydrating and smooth out the fine lines. And it stayed on my skin!!! I need something that lasts a long time because my skin is so dehydrated. Now I am torn because I want the full size and yet I don’t have the budget for it! Worse yet, I am staring at my Murad and L’Occitane stuff and there is still a fair amount left!!! So much regret!!
Biotherm…I used it in my early twenties and thought it was good, but back then I didnt’ know anything. I would put Biotherm in the same category as Clinique. Slightly better than Clinique but not by much. Lancome is one of the most hyped up brands ever. I love their mascaras but their skincare is nothing but a lot of silicone!!! Estee Lauder – I have only used two of their skincare products – the Advanced Night Repair serum, which is good at neutralizing redness – especially a very bad chemical reaction to AHA – but doesn’t do anything else. The other product was the Take It Away eye makeup remover, which stings and burns my eyes so bad I drained the entire bottle the same day. My experiences with a lot of these western brands is that their stuff doesn’t really sink in very well (doesn’t absorb well). It takes a lot of massaging to get it absorbed and it doesn’t moisturize deep enough to really treat the lines, just a bandaid solution – very superficial! They are better at makeup than skincare. (I use Estee Lauder automatic brow pencil and it is great)
I did check my samples and found the Jinaek Program!! Quite a few packets!!!! I also have the whole Seol whitening line samples enough for at least 2 weeks’ use (or longer, if I only use it at night)!! I almost cried happy tears!!! LOL I feel like setting aside some time at night, after my little girl goes to bed, and have some kind of ritual to enhance the experience!!!
I have the Ja Saeng Bichup Essence too, a few packets, can’t wait to try it!!! I got the Hwa Hyun samples too! I am so lucky!!!! I am beginning to think Whoo does better for my skin than even Sulwhasoo!
Now I have heard about this su:m37 brand, I want to try it too! I am going to stay in the Korean brands from now on. We should all make a pact LOL!
Let me know when you are ready to make your reviews. I will start using the whitening from Whoo and we can sync our reviews together!!
Tuyet
November 12, 2010 at 10:32 pm (922 days ago)To Joseibi and others,
Where do I buy Secret court cream and the su:m37 ? There is no place that sell korean products where I live, so I bought everything online. Please help me out.
Just out of curiosity, has everyone here tried both the whoo whitening line and SKII cellumination? which one works better? I’m using whoo right now, couldn’t be happier, but I’m still tempting to try cellumination. but I thought it’s better for me to get advice beforei wasting money on hypes. Thank you
Joseibi
November 15, 2010 at 4:26 pm (919 days ago)Dear Tuyet,
I am glad you found a place to buy the Secret Court Cream and su:m37!!!!! I will be using Whoo for the next month or two!!!
I didn’t try SKII cellumination. I did use their Whitening Source (essence and masks) before – I find that the History of Whoo really gives you quick results compared to almost everything else I tried. SKII’s Facial Treatment Essence and Mask remain their star product – and now that I have been using Whoo (had tried the whitening toner and emulsion before and now I am using the entire line) and other products in the Whoo line I personally prefer Whoo. But because I didn’t use SKII’s Cellumination yet though, I can’t say for sure which one is better.
Secret Court Cream is very nice, I take it over La Mer anyday!
Tuyet
November 12, 2010 at 11:15 pm (922 days ago)i just happen to come across a website that sell History of Whoo Secret court cream and su:m37, just thought I share it with everyone. http://www.royalbeautycosmetics.com/products/The-History-of-Whoo-Secret-Court-Cream.html
For anyone that knows or have tried su:m37 products, which one would you recommend me to rejuvenate my skin, I want to smooth out, and make my skin soft, glow and have translucent. Thanks
Lala
November 14, 2010 at 2:16 pm (921 days ago)Hey Joseibi!!!!!!
I am EXTREMELY happy you have so much samples to try out, and even use for a while!!!!!! Yay, you will absolutely love the Whitening Jinaek Program, I am loving it so much, it works!!!
Joseibi I have some important news regarding The History of Whoo Whitening products!!!!!! I happened to come across one of my really close Korean friends who know some of the researchers who work at LG and research for The History of Whoo products – neat huh? I asked her about the specific ingredients they use for their products. She got me a lot of information, and they actually gave her the main ingredients used for their whitening products. Their Whitening Jinaek Program – not the improved one but the old one had Diacetyl Benzoyl Lathyrol – which is a natural whitening agent which has been proven to whiten the skin and fade away freckles safely. Now they are using the natural form of Titanium Dioxide for their improved Whitening Jinaek Program: 10mlx4 with the gel, which has also been proven to help whiten the skin. But the Whitening Intensive still has Diacetyl Benzoyl Lathyrol – very potent and natural!
The History of Whoo Seol Whitening Essence and The History of Whoo Seol Whitening Cream – Both contain the natural Diosmetin, which is found and derived from one of their main ingredients Chrysanthemum (Note: For the whitening essence they used Pearl, although it is not mentioned)
Diosmetin – Natural Whitening agent found in extract of Chrysanthemum morifolium (Chrysanthemum morifolium petals) as the diosmetin of Formula 10. Skin whitening compound having skin whitening effect such as treatment of melasma or freckles, and acomposition for skin whitening comprising the skin whitening compound as an active ingredient.
***skin whitening compound and a composition for skin whitening being able to be safely used without any side effect on skin and having an excellent inhibitory effect on pigmentation.***
The flavones derivatives have no side effect on skin, and inhibit melanin synthesis, and differentiation and maturity of melanocyte, and therefore the composition containing the flavones derivatives the as active ingredients can be highly effectively used to treat melasma and freckles, improvecutaneous hyperpigmentations such as lentigo senilis, dermatofibroma, Caffe auremacule, etc. and attain a **skin whitening effect**.
(Website: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/ja/wo.jsp?WO=2007083904&IA=KR2007000227&DISPLAY=DESC)
No wonder these products work!!!!! The best thing is that these products all contain natural ingredients, and have been proven to be safe since they come from specific Herbs!!! No side effects – so we are safe haha. There is a certain amount of the main ingredients in these products, which work effectively and are safe for the skin – externally and internally.
Joseibi
November 15, 2010 at 4:30 pm (919 days ago)Thanks, Lala, you are such a lifesaver!!! Now we don’t have to worry about our favorite brand!!! It’s good to have something that works without that underlying worrying factor.
I counted all my Whoo samples yesterday (almost like inventory! LOL) – I have enough Jinaek program for a whole month! Plus the whole line (from foam cleanser to cream!)!! I will try all these starting tonight!!!! So happy!!!!
Lala
November 14, 2010 at 2:31 pm (921 days ago)I cannot wait till you try out the whitening ingredient!!!!! YOU TOTALLY need to experience these products in relaxation, so whenever you have time at night, I highly recommend it. It is good for the mind too – and I find that applying my creams in a good mental state, they work effectively – don’t know if it is just me LOL but I do see and feel a different
HAHA totally agree! We should make a pact – Asian skin care lovers haha <3
Ugh Joseibi, Western brands = superficial & temporary. You know what is so funny – I wish I saved this article, but an American Dermatologist stated that higher skin care brands, and drugstore brands are EXACTLY the same. I totally disagree – I mean when it comes to Asian skin care it is TOTALLY different. I guess comparing Western brands like Olay and Lancome – the same ingredients? Haha I wouldn't be surprised. But it also falls under the concentration of ingredients. Sometimes I think these people just want us to ruin our skin so we can pay for these high-end plastic surgeons to redo all the crap someone has put on their skin years ago. I mean have you read the ingredients for Neutrogena's Anti-Aging products – IT IS HORRIBLE!!!
Omg I would love to sync our reviews together Joseibi!!! Tell me when!!!
Ahhh, my Korean friend uses su:m37, she absolutely loves it. They do not sell it here though, I couldn't find it!!! Ugh Joseibi I feel your pain!!!! If it hasn't done any harm to your skin, I guess you will have to finish it? Or maybe allow your spouse to use it? Haha, I usually give them to my siblings hahaha.
MUCH LOVE <3!!!!!!!
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Hello Tuyet!
I have not tried SKII's whitening products, sorry cannot comment on it! But I have read reviews where people have used it for more than a month, some people saw a glow from within their skin, but no fading of the freckles, just an overall glow to their complexion. Yes that is one of the websites – but unfortunately they do not* ship to Canada only the United States – so whomever lives in the US is pretty lucky haha! Tuyet I could recommend you the Ja Saeng Bichup Essence, I have been using it for 3 weeks, morning and night, and my complexion IS SO SMOOTH AND GLOWY, it is very clear, my pores are invisible, and it has given a lift to my face. I really love this essence, and the smell is a herbal-floral scent, not too strong! One of my favourite essences! With The History of Whoo, you will see and feel what they advertise, there is NO gimmick with them ever since I cam across this brand, love it!!! I hope this helps Tuyet!!!
Joseibi
November 15, 2010 at 4:37 pm (919 days ago)Lala,
Just saw your second post!
I just used up my L’Occitane Immortelle Brightening Moisture Cream last night – this 50ml jar lasted me just a bit over a month!A Korean cream would have lasted me close to 2-3!
Some of those dermatologists – well I probably shouldn’t say anything. I disagree with that view as well. Sometimes I look at those drugstore brands, they sell for so cheap and yet spend millions of $$$ on advertising — makes you wonder how much $$ actually went into developing and producing the products!
Neutrogena is banned from my home. In 2006, I went to Greece with my husband, and I was wearing a Neutrogena sunscreen all over – including my hands. Somehow, it melted the paint on my camera completely. I even had to take my camera to (Panasonic) the dealer to get a replacement because it was brand new and the paint was gone. The repair agent told me that some sunscreen is really bad – it actually dissolves paint (paint that you cannot easily remove, even with acetone or paint thinner). After that, I will never buy anything Neutrogena again. Their sunscreens are full of all the bad stuff – mostly oxybenzone.
I have the Ja Saeng Bichup essence enough to last a month as well, after reading your review now I can’t wait to use it!!! First I am using the whitening line so I can review it though. I agree, with such high end and luxury stuff. you got to have the right mental state to enjoy it!!!
Lala
November 14, 2010 at 2:45 pm (921 days ago)Sorry mistake LOL, I can’t wait till you try out the whitening products*
<3
Tuyet
November 14, 2010 at 7:28 pm (920 days ago)Hi Lala, the website that I posted earlier, they carry Su:m37 and Whoo Secret Court cream, but I have not order from them before, don’t know if they’re reliable or not…I live in USA, I’m using Whoo whitening essence, cream, Jaseang bichup essence and whitening program right now, I’m tempting to buy the whitening intensive, but I don’t know if I really need it. I’m really tempting to try the whitening peel off mask but I’m afraid it will cause irritation and wrinkle from all the peeling, so I’m holding back on it…Just like you, I”m deeply in love with whoo products haha, can’t live without it. I’m really lazy when it comes to skin products, but I find that if I stop using it for 2 days, my skin becomes dull, so it really gives me the motivation to use it daily religiously hehe. If you happen to know other websites that sell korean and japanese skin care at good prices please let me know, Thanks.
Tuyet
November 16, 2010 at 3:19 am (919 days ago)To Lala and Joseibi,
I search for information everywhere on Whoo Secret Court Cream, but couldn’t find any, can you give me information on that product, what is it for? how effective? How is it compared to Whoo whitening intensive, which one should I get? hehe I’m trying to spend my money wisely, I don’t have a lot of money to spend on the whole line, hope you all understand.
Joseibi
November 16, 2010 at 3:10 pm (919 days ago)Dear Tuyet,
Found this at Royal Beauty cosmetics:
An ointment type cream that rejuvenates and revives tired skin. Uses 32 precious herbal ingredients from the royal courts of emperors and empresses. Anti-wrinkle, elasticity, and evening out the skin tone function. Experience the power of the Royal Courts that have been kepted secret for hundred of centuries. The newest addition to the Whoo family.
I am using both the Secret Court Cream (still have samples!) and Whitening Intensive. The texture is very similar between the two – very smooth. The whitening one will fade out the hyperpigmentation (freckles, spots,etc.) but the Secret Court Cream is more for anti-aging and hydration. It depends what you are trying to treat. It is brand new so the Whoo’s English site hasn’t added it yet!
When it comes to Whoo stuff, I know, it’s really hard to choose. I savour and cherish every drop, every smudge of it!
Lala
November 18, 2010 at 7:26 pm (916 days ago)You’re very welcome Joseibi!!!!!!!!!!!
I was really happy to share this information with you!!! I hope you are loving the whitening skin care. I am SO HAPPY you have the line-up!!! AHHH so exciting!!! LOL at inventory!!! You know, we would make a great team – I always count my samples too, and look at my sets sometimes more than once – I am not crazy haha
Omg, no way!!?? Neutrogena sunscreen removed the paint off your camera – TOTALLY NOT SAFE. Imagine how bad it is today – wow this is dangerous! Thank goodness you banned it! You know Joseibi, I banned all Western products – never am I going to use these brands here. Ugh! (Btw, I WANT TO GO TO GREECE!!! Lucky you!)
You will LOVE the Ja Saeng Bichup Essence – I gave some to my sibling, and she said how smooth her skin instantly felt! Ahh this essence is one of my favourites now!!! You are so right Joseibi, my Korean skin care lasts me for at least 4 months – I am VERY stingy with the amount LOL, but I am breaking the habit because I have realized that I need more than just half a pea-size lol. Also, I don’t want to keep it for too long because I know that’s not good!
I know their Whitening Intensive 20ml is one of their star products, also with the Whitening Jinaek Program. The SA guaranteed that the Whitening Intensive will fade marks and freckles dramatically!!! (Also, the Whitening Jinaek in 4 weeks) Next on my list!!!
I hope the whitening line is going great for you! Can’t wait after a month!!! I LOVE The History of Whoo – ahhhh! hahaha!
MUCH LOVE!!! <3
Joseibi
November 19, 2010 at 3:23 pm (916 days ago)oh, it is going great for me, Lala!! I am loving every drop of the Whoo stuff!! 3 days into using and my sallowness is going away. I woke up to visibly more even skin tone! When smiles and you gave your accounts I was thinking, would it work just as well for me? After just 3 days, I can tell that it will. I also LOVE the texture of the Whitening Intensive. I also love how you layer all these products and nothing flakes!!! Flaking is one of my pet peeves. If a product rubs right off I just get mightily pissed! LOL
I have the Ja Saeng Bichup Essence samples enough for a month’s use too. I haven’t started it yet – just wanted to isolate the Seol line so I can review it honestly. Like you, I will never go back to western brands!!! Maybe just the makeup, but skincare, I am definitely staying with the Korean!!
Lala
November 19, 2010 at 11:20 pm (915 days ago)Ahh Joseibi! I am extremely happy it is working for you! Omg, imagine after a month!!! CAN’T CAN’T WAIT!!!
I really would love to try the Whitening Intensive!!! I have heard that it really fades away freckles and marks? (even removes them!!!) Honestly Joseibi, I have never heard of creams flaking before? Hmm does it like literally come off your skin? LOL definitely would not be surprised if it was a Western brand.
Joseibi, do you think that using anti-aging products at a younger age is beneficial for the long term – as well as products that have anti-oxidants? Also Joseibi, lately I have been having problems with my dry scalp – after I used Garnier Hair Glaze, and Garnier Curls Gel – it has been over a year, it RUINED my scalp, I don’t know what has been going on but I have been flaking pretty badly (gosh, WHY did I use it?
) Would you recommend anything to help treat the hair? I bought a Shampoo at The Amore, but it hasn’t done anything but dry out my hair unfortunately 
The Seol Whitening Line actually have some anti-aging ingredients such as Squalane. And Sandalwood which has many properties – such as helping to fight blemishes (one reason why they added this is to achieve that flawless even skin). Can’t wait for your review Joseibi!!! Keep enjoying every drop of the Whoo!!!! I do the same hahaha!!!!!!!!
Thank you SO MUCH Joseibi for your blog once again! Cannot stress how much I am so happy I found your blog, the only blog where I can come to discuss my favourite brands, and get the greatest tips and warnings from you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<3<3<3
Joseibi
November 22, 2010 at 1:44 pm (913 days ago)Dear Lala,
It’s actually people like you that keep my blog going!
so happy to see your posts every time.
A lot of the gel-creams and serums in western brands flake off – Eminence, L’Occitane, Murad…sticky and rubs right off. I can’t stand that! I get mad when that happens. Whereas I cannot recall any J- or K-brands doing that to me.
I am using the Whitening Intensive – it has a really great texture. It’s like a balm, but doesn’t go on oily – not matte either, just smooth, but not glossy finish. I don’t think I have used anything quite like it. The closest was SKII’s whitening pancake I used years ago – it melted right into my skin. I have no idea what goes in it but it sure doesn’t feel like silicone, which I hate!
The antiaging products, if used say in your early twenties, won’t really do much, that’s what I read (reason being that before 25, the body still produces a good amount of collagen). Antioxidants are great as preventative measure – you would want to use them when you are in your 20s through to about 30, and then start the anti-age stuff. It also depends on what anti-age products you use too – the western brands all rely on retinol, which never worked for me, and it makes your skin photosensitive too. The J- and K-brands are more gentle on the skin (IOPE has retinol products too, just like Shiseido, but they don’t irritate my skin like the western brands do) and most of them use herbs instead of retinol. Koreans are big on ginseng and that works for me also – gives my complexion a nice glow, instead of sallow skin waking up, it’s pink kind of fairness.
Dry scalp – I suffer from that too! I don’t have dandruff, but when I go to spas, the estheticians would tell me that when you have dehydrated skin sometimes the scalp is the same too – it gets dehydrated. My hair can get oily the third day after a shampoo, so I have to shampoo every other day. Recently I read up on shampoos and discovered that most shampoos are way too alkaline and they dry up the natural balance of the scalp. The preferably pH level should be lower than 7 and I found Phyto has shampoos specifically made for dry, sensitive or irritated scalps, the pH level is 5.5. I had been using it and it’s the same shampoo that I purchased from Strawberrynet (and caused that whole debacle!). I use it and even on the third day my hair is not greasy and my scalp doesn’t itch anymore. Perhaps you can give it a try! You can get it at essentialdayspa.com for less than at sephora. It’s called Phyto Progrenium Intelligent Shampoo (it comes in a few versions actually).
Hair styling products can build up on the scalp too, once a week a clarifying shampoo that removes buildup is good to get rid of the build up. I remember reading something about apple cider and vinegar being able to remove it too – some shampoos contain these ingredients to remove buildup as well. I think John Masters has a shampoo for that, or Oscar Blandi or Ojon…
I was going to ask whether you tried Sulwhasoo’s shampoos? I saw them at the Amore store several times, it comes in a gift set on sale for like $35 and I was so tempted to get it!! Years ago I tried their Mise-en-Scene shampoos too, very rich and made my hair quite greasy…sometimes I buy their Happy Day or whatever bath products as gifts, my friends seem to like them.
Did you see their Laneige magazines there by the way? The latest issue is really nice. Song Hye Kyo on the cover. It’s printed on thick, glossy paper so it’s really nice like a keepsake!
kman
November 20, 2010 at 6:44 pm (914 days ago)its so funny i read your reviews and you all have the same exprerience with the whoo!! i saw also after a few days results on my skin, the whoo products are really addicted.
love it soooo much, i remember i discover this brand here on joseibi.com thanks to lala her whoo facewash hahahaaha,
here in holland i cannot share with anybody, thats why i am also happy to find this wonderfull blog.
smiles if you still here, you are right about the whoo nok yong pack mask, and the jinyul masaging mask just wanna let you know.
xxxkman
Joseibi
November 22, 2010 at 1:53 pm (913 days ago)Isn’t whoo just incredible?!!! Honestly, you don’t need a whole month to see results. Just a few days on Whoo and my skin looks much better already! I don’t think I will ever leave this brand hehehe!
kman
November 20, 2010 at 6:50 pm (914 days ago)oh girls one more thing, i bought a few months ago the revitalash lash serum. and wanne let you know if you want longer eyelashes you must use this brand. its really makes your lashes grows the mine is.
people ask me if i have fake lashes on??!!! and how come my lashes is suddenly soo long.
just wanna share with you guys.
the bottle i bought is 99 euro and they said its good for a half year. just put it on the night.
xxkman
Joseibi
November 22, 2010 at 1:54 pm (913 days ago)Thanks for sharing!!! Good to know that it actually works!!
Tuyet Ngo
November 20, 2010 at 7:27 pm (914 days ago)Is this the correct order to use whoo products?
_whoo whitening esence
_whoo whitening jinaek program
_whoo ja saeng bicup essence
_whoo whitening cream
_whoo secret court cream?
Joseibi
November 22, 2010 at 1:56 pm (913 days ago)Dear Tuyet,
I would use it the same sequence as you too. Are you already using all these? I cannot say enough good things about the Jinaek Program – it works fast! I can’t do a full review until the one month mark but I cannot wait to share! Just 3 more weeks!
Lala
November 21, 2010 at 1:40 pm (914 days ago)Hi kman!
Long time! Hahaha I am so happy you are in love with The History of Whoo, as much as we are!!! It truly is a *miracle brand,* how do you like the Secret Court Cream kman?! I want to purchase it!!! But I have my amazing Whitening Seol line to get through!!!
Oh wow! I have heard of it! But never really thought of trying it. Thanks so much kman, I will take a look at it! I know one of their main ingredients is Panthenol which helps with boosting lash growth and making the lashes thicker!
Thanks!!!!
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Hello Tuyet Ngo!!!
Yes exactly in that order you have mentioned – and do not forget your sunscreen. Will you be applying toner though? Although it is no necessary – just to level out pH balance. I hope you enjoy the products, you will see results within days!!!
Lucky you for having the Secret Court Cream too!!! Did you guys purchase it at Royal Beauty Cosmetics? – I have recently checked their website and they do International shipments now!!! Hehehe
zhi
November 21, 2010 at 7:15 pm (913 days ago)hee lala,
well i love the secret of court cream, i use it also as the last step in my skin care day and night. after put this cream on my face its absorb it directly, you know i have a very dry skin but now using the whoo products my skin is soo healthy now on the end of the day normaly i had a lot of dryness and little white dead skin nearby my nose and chin, but now i have nothing!! i am really happy now with all the whoo products, the western products i now use for my hands,
well lala i order my whoo products directly from korea, and they have much cheaper prices then the royal beauty cosmetics.
xxkman
Tuyet Ngo
November 21, 2010 at 10:14 pm (913 days ago)to Zhi, where do you go to order from korea? is there a website?
Kman
November 22, 2010 at 9:21 pm (912 days ago)Hi tuyet,
Hè dont have à website but i can give him your email or i can give you his email but not on this blog cause i did that ones and joseibi told me becarefull for spams and uninvited mails. So do you have à idea or joseibi ?
Xxx kman
Joseibi
November 23, 2010 at 11:31 am (912 days ago)You can leave emails and I will try to delete after one day to minimize your exposure to spams, how’s that?
Just post a comment that you got the other’s email and I will delete it. Hopefully you won’t get spams from this. I got lots on this blog and it’s just crazy!
Smiles
November 23, 2010 at 7:11 am (912 days ago)Hello Kman and Joseibi,
I bought the product a couple years back when i was on vacation overseas. I was so happy to see it on royalbeautycosmetics, but i remembered paying $75.00 U.S dollar at that time. It was listed as $99.95 on RBC site, i guess it was bc the item is very hard to get. Anyhoo, i will buy from them and see how the service is. I am addicted to The sunbalm! Hehehehehe LOL If I’d known that I would’ve gotten 4-5 jars at that the time! 
For me the most important thing when it comes to buying is first, the service, and second the price. I would rather pay more money and get platinum service, then get a product at a cheaper price and get close to no service. I used to love, LOVE shopping at joseibi.com, I haven’t found a place that replaced the service i received at joseibi.com yet. Anyway, sorry for the personal bit of information about me. Hoping everyone here stay beautiful and healthy!
thanks for the compliment. It’s just my personal experience and opinion when it comes to the whoo nok yong pack and jinyul mask. But I really do miss the Song-I pack from the history of whoo, along with Whoo hae yoon go sun balm, they are being phased out, so extremely hard to get. I asked my friend to get for me the hae yoon go sunbalm, but he told me that they didn’t sell it anymore
Cheers,
Smiles
Joseibi
November 23, 2010 at 11:51 am (912 days ago)Smiles, you just made my day. It was a lot of hard work back then but customers like you really made it worthwhile!!!
I agree, esp. after the fiasco with strawberrynet, I rather pay a little more and have good service and fresh genuine products. The hassle of chasing after a refund or even making a complaint with no response is not worth a few dollars in savings! Learned my lesson…
If you do shop with royalbeautycosmetics.com please let us know how their service is. I haven’t bought yet but planned to! Have to save up for Christmas for now and hopefully will have money left over!
Lala
November 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm (909 days ago)Hiii Joseibi!!!! Sorry for the late reply! Exam weeks beginning soon haha
I am so glad to hear that!!! You have been posting amazing articles!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh no, I would get very mad too!!! That is just a complete waste of money. Gosh, enough with western brands! We can rant all day, HONESTLY! LOL!
UGH Joseibi! I need to purchase the Seol Whitening Intensive!!! I am so tempted right now!!! I recently asked my friend for the ingredients (it was all in jargon, so I will ask for the translation hehehe), she said there is no fragrance added, and it has a good concentration of squalane. As well, the active natural whitening ingredient diacetyl benzoyl lathyrol. I wish I could get the full list! I will make sure too soon!!!!
Thank you so much for your advice Joseibi!!! I have been using anti-aging products even at a very young age. Ohhh yes I have heard the stories of western Retinols – causing rashes, and is bad for sensitive skin. I usually use essential oils like Black Seed Oil, which has vitamins *A*, B, B1, B2, C and niacin. It has has minerals such as calcium, potassium, iron, sulfur, copper, magnesium, selenium and zinc. Omega 3 and 6 – it is an amazing oil, I tell you! I have heard wonders with ginseng – have used the Sulwhasoo Concentrated Ginseng cream and love it very much!!!! I will make sure to pack up with anti-oxidants in my mid-20′s!!!
I would LOVE to update on my dry scalp! So after reading your post Joseibi, I applied Organic Apple Cider Vinegar (with the Mother), and my scalp started having a burning sensation since my scalp was very itchy and red, (honestly I know that Garnier product did something to my hair!!!). My hair is less itchy!!! Thanks so much. Did some extra research and found that Apple Cider Vinegar removes the bacteria known as “bottle bacillus,” which is the build-up that causes flaking, dryness, itching, redness and so forth. As you have mentioned, it is caused by hair products we use, which ruins the pH balance (gosh, we have to becareful!!!). I need a good shampoo! Thanks Joseibi, I will definitely purchase the Phyto shampoo!!!!!!!
Ohhhhh yes Joseibi! I purchased the one at The Amore, its called RYO Shampoo – the set was $35. Unfortunately Joseibi, it made my hair SUPER dry, I used it for 3 weeks to give it a fair try, and no luck whatsoever. My hair actually got more flaky
(She gave me samples though hehehe, but no luck with the hair problems, just made it a tad worse).
Oh no I didn’t!!! I will be visiting the P.A.T Supermarket soon for The History of Whoo haha!!! Need to purchase some great Whoo products!!! Seriously cannot wait for your review!!! Always love coming to your site because it is here that I can discuss my love for Asian skin care!!!!
Thanks very much for the advice Joseibi!!!!!!!!!!! I will be applying Apple Cider Vinegar everyday for one hour to get the full treatment 
MUCH LOVE!!!!! xo <3
Joseibi
December 1, 2010 at 11:40 am (904 days ago)Lala, you are so nice!!! No apologies needed! This time of the year it’s hard to be online, there are so many things to do before the holidays and in preparation for the holidays!!! I remember my uni days hehehe. Always had exams on the very last day before Christmas and the whole dorm was like a ghost town, with a few unfortunate souls like me that had to sit through the finals later than everybody else! (I majored in politics, by the way, strange path I had taken in the beauty business after that!)
Oh, I wanted to tell you, I discovered Kiss My Face line of natural products, available at Loblaws. They have shampoos that are pH balanced and at $7.99 instead of $24 (Phyto shampoos)! If you want you can give that a try. I find that with pH balanced shampoos my scalp does not itch and doesn’t get oily. I hope it will work for you! The Kiss My Face shampoos and conditioners are all natural, no sulfates, etc., better than Phyto’s ingredients!
I went to the Amore store yesterday to buy another tube of Multiberry Peeling Gel for my friend’s birthday and *almost* bought the ryeo shampoo! Thank God I didn’t! It was on special too and then I thought of what you said – since that’s the only shampoo available in the store and you got yours at Amore I thought it could be the same one. At that price you would expect better results! I used to use Mise-En-Scene (also made by Amore) but it didn’t work for me either. I think the fragrance or whatever they use irritated my scalp as well. It also made my hair very greasy!
It’s been 2 weeks since I started the Whoo Seol line and I can definitely see an overall improvement of my skin tone! It’s much more even, brighter, sallowness is gone. I am still waiting for my individual freckles to fade! But I think I will keep using it even beyond the one month. It has improved the tone and clarity of my dull skin so much already. If I were to choose between the intensive and the Jinaek Program I wouldn’t know which one works better though! I hope they have special sets for Christmas!
Best of luck on your exams!!! I will be on vacation in 2 weeks. I will try to post my Seol review after Christmas!
Have a great holiday season if I don’t see you before I go!
Hugs,
Joseibi
Tuyet
November 27, 2010 at 9:08 pm (907 days ago)Lala,
if you have issue with shampoo, try pureology (high end) and redken all soft shampoo and mask. I have terrible straw-like hair, after using pureology my hair becomes very soft and manageable, due to the high cost, I recently tried redken all soft shampoo, quality is not comparable to pureology so far but I only use it once, so can’t comment too much. I used pureology nanworks luxury hair masque, it feels like heaven, the fragrance is heavenly. love it
Tuyet
November 27, 2010 at 9:17 pm (907 days ago)Kman, please leave me his email here,with the name and I will contact him, thank you very very much
Joseibi
December 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm (904 days ago)Hi Tuyet,
When you post a comment, can you type your email? It won’t show on my blog but I can email you directly with that information Kman left with me. Thanks!
JJ
November 29, 2010 at 7:20 am (906 days ago)Hi all,
I have a question about Whoo’s soo yeon line and yang line. I’m currently using Sulwhasoo in the morning and have just switched to Whoo’s whitening line for night time. I can’t say I’m a fan of Whoo’s whitening line’s fragrance. I much prefer the herbal scent. Can anyone tell me if Whoo’s other non-whitening line also have the same fragrance? I’m thinking about adding a cream to my night regimen. I don’t think the whitening cream is moisturizing enough for me. I am leaning towards Sulwhasoo’s Ginseng cream but I’m also curious about Whoo’s various creams. Any suggestions?
Thanks a million! Love this blog!
JJ
Joseibi
December 1, 2010 at 12:44 pm (904 days ago)Dear JJ,
Funny you should mention Whoo’s scent!! That would be my only ‘complaint’…Sulwhasoo has much more pleasant fragrance in my opinion but because Whoo worked better I tried not to think about it! But I know what you mean. It’s a strong scent. Sulwhasoo’s is more like a sweet herbal aroma which I prefer and like.
Just like you, I needed a cream over the Whoo whitening cream too. Right now I am using Isa Knox Whitening Revolution Cream which is more moisturizing than whoo’s whitening cream. I used it on top and it seems to be hydrating enough. I also like Whoo’s Secret Court Cream but it’s a lot more expensive than Isa Knox’s! since you already have the Whoo whitening line you use at night, if you just need extra moisture, you can get a regular night cream from Sulwhasoo (Lifting Cream) just to supplement the moisture if you dont’ have it in your budget. If you can splurge, sulwhasoo’s Ginseng Cream is great too, but it’s pricey.
For myself, every 2-3 days I actually use Sulwhasoo’s Overnight Vitalizing Treatment, which is like a sleeping pack over my whoo whitening line. It’s $55 and really seals in the moisture quite well.
The Soo Yeon line is for hydration, the cream is more like a gel cream, I did not find that hydrating for my dehydrated dry skin though…Sulwhasoo’s Lifting Cream, Extra Refining Cream, and Ginseng Cream are more emollient in my opinion.
smiles
November 29, 2010 at 5:13 pm (905 days ago)To JJ
All of the whoo line pretty much has the same scent. The whitening is a bit more heavily fragranced. The chung yeo line, is the only one that has the least amount of fragrance, since it is tailored more towards sensitive/acne skin. In order to boost moisture level, here are the listing of whoo’s effective moisture cream, #1 being okay in moisturization and as the number gets higher, so does the moisturizing power
1.qi&jin cream
2.soo yeon cream
3.secret court cream
4. jinyul cream / hwa hyun cream
5. cosmo energy cream
6. dam yoon cream
if you want to combine a moisturizing cream to you skincare regime, add the cream before putting on the whoo whitening cream. Hope this helps
Cheers
Smiles
JJ
November 29, 2010 at 7:27 pm (905 days ago)Thanks Smiles!
Lala
December 7, 2010 at 9:20 pm (897 days ago)Hiiii Joseibi!!!!!!
THANK YOU Joseibi!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to go check it out!!! I was actually going to purchase the Phyto shampoo!!!!!! I will give it a try and see how it works – thank you for suggesting apple cider vinegar Joseibi, my hair has CALMED DOWN – I believe the pH is back to normal!!!! Thank you!!! Love, love, love preservative free products!!! Thumbs up to that, I will check it out soon
OHH no, thank goodness you did not purchase it! Ugh, glad I told you about it! After not using it for 1 week, I don’t know why, but I used the shampoo than conditioner, and there it goes again – DRY HAIR AND FLAKES – I seriously don’t know why!!!!!!!!! Im so mad, it was expensive too for a shampoo!!! And no refunds or returns or exchanges! Sucks! It may have been some ingredient that irritated our hair!!! Shame
I am SO GLAD to hear that Joseibi!!!! Are you using the Whoo Whitening Intensive only on your freckles??? I am pretty sure you know this, but when I was at P.A.T Supermarket – the SA showed me the technique to use it (although I did not purchase it, the price was such a killer for only 20ml!!!) by somewhat-hard circular motions on your dark marks/spots, and freckles. The pressure on your fingers will help ‘break’ scar tissue. (This pressure-massaging is known in Swedan for removing freckles) Since the Whoo Whitening Intensive has potent natural whitening ingredients – it will produce significant wonders, as does the Whoo Whitening Program Essence. I recently went to the T&T Supermarket and found that they sell The History of Whoo products!!!!!!!!!!!! THE WOMAN LOOKED AMAZING – I swear she was like 53, but had skin of a 30 year old!!!!!!!! Gosh, I wanted to purchase the Whitening Intensive (they had sets of it!!!!).
THANK YOU VERY MUCH JOSEIBI!!! I wish you the best season with your precious family! <3 Best wishes on your trip!!!! Happy Holidays!!!!
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Joseibi!!!!!
XOXO <3
Joseibi
December 8, 2010 at 1:00 pm (897 days ago)Dear Lala,
Thank you for sharing your tips too!!! Always a pleasure to hear from you!!!! I didn’t know that special technique to apply the Whitening Intensive, but I actually did it that way without knowing it, because of the texture. It’s like a soft balmy kind of texture (very much like home made ice cream/sorbet!!) so you do need to massage it in the the skin harder than other products. It blends and absorbs quickly though. I only use it on my freckles because it’s expensive!! So far the freckles are still there, though I find the Jinaek Program very effective in brightening the overall skin tone and it’s only been 2.5 weeks!
I actually bought a lot of stuff from that booth at T&T (both locations in Markham). They used to sell Sekkisei there and then they brought in The History of Whoo and they started to badmouth Sekkisei once they sold out and they persuaded me to try Whoo. I walked away with a 20ml sample set of the Whoo Seol Brightening Skin Balancer and Lotion, which is how I got started with the brand!
I love how generous the Korean salesladies are with their samples. They are confident in what they sell and they give them to you to try even without purchase. They know you will be back for more!!
I wish you a Merry Christmas too!!! Hope your last exams will go well!!! Philosophy sounds interesting, I took a course in it in my freshman year, which seemed so long ago now (I feel old!)!!!
Hugs and greetings to you and your loved ones!
JJ
December 8, 2010 at 7:14 pm (896 days ago)Hi Joseibi,
Thank you SO much for your help and reviews. I am currently using sulwhasoo’s ginseng cream with whoo’s whitening line. I also was talked into buying O Hui’s “the first cell revolution” balancer/lotion/cream line. I’m not sure if you are familiar with OHui and how it compares to sulwhasoo. I’m using the gift set from O Hui right now. I’m not sure if it is worth investing in it rather than investing in sulwhasoo/whoo. I still love sulwhasoo for basic care. I may like it a bit more than Whoo’s in yang line. Not very sure yet. Please do keep the reviews coming! I love love love your blog.
Happy holidays!!!
JJ
Joseibi
December 10, 2010 at 11:44 am (895 days ago)Dear JJ,
You are very welcome!!!!!!!!!!!
I have OHUI’s The First Cell Revolution deluxe sample too, but haven’t tried it yet. I have used OHUI in the past (including the BB cream). I can’t say for sure whether I like OHUI better than Isa Knox – the two brands seem to be quite similar as both are manufactured by LG. I do like sulwhasoo’s basic line, and some of the other treatment products (the Extra Refining Cream did wonders for me too), but when it comes to whitening Whoo worked better for me. It’s very hard to choose sometimes between the 2 brands! Each has something I like, and neither is cheap!
As far as the scent goes, I definitely prefer Sulwhasoo, not that it is a major consideration for me as long as the product works.
I hope you will share your reviews with us too!
Tuyet
December 10, 2010 at 12:02 am (895 days ago)Joseibi, is there any way I can get in touch with you through your personal email because I need your advices on some makeup products. It would be really rude of me to go into a different topic to ask about something else.
By the way, Lala and Joseibi, I don’t order my products from royalbeauty, because I contact them, but they did not reply to me, they take too long. I order mine from a person in korea who gives me amazing prices due to my big orders. I’m going to order the whole line of su:m 37, I should be receiving mine next week, I will come back to do review. I just got the su;m 37 detox mask, will try it and let you all know. Thank you everyone.
Joseibi
December 10, 2010 at 12:13 pm (895 days ago)Dear Tuyet,
I added a contact form on the blog – under Contact Joseibi.com (or About Me: Joseibi), but I sent an email to you just in case. Don’t worry about asking something different from what I posted! It’s totally ok. Wow, the whole line eh? I can’t wait to hear your reviews!!!!! I really want to know how su:m37 compares to Whoo! So exciting to try new brands!
JJ
December 10, 2010 at 4:55 pm (894 days ago)Cannot wait for your reviews Tuyet!!
Joseibi – I agree that Whoo is way better in whitening than Sulwhasoo’s. I just cannot decide between Sulwhasoo’s basic line and Whoo’s basic line. I tried them both. I found that when my skin acts up (I have super sensitive skin), Sulwhasoo seems to feel gentler on my skin than Whoo. Even the Ohui’s first cell revolution feels much better. But once my skin is back to normal, Whoo actually does its job quite well. I used Sulwhasoo basic line/ginseng cream all last week with only Whoo’s whitening essence and program because my skin had been reacting to sephora’s makeup remover and whoo’s products did not seem to help the recovery. By yesterday my skin finally calmed down. So I switched back to the following last night and my skin looks perfect today!
Sulwhasoo’s first care essece
Ohui first cell revolution softener
whoo’s whitening balancer
bichup serum
whoo’s whitening serum
whoo’s whitening program
whoo’s whitening lotion
whoo’s whitening intensive
whoo’s whitening cream.
I still use sulwhasoo’s basic care for day time care. I also find whoo’s eye cream much more effective in combating dry fine lines than sulwhasoo’s. I’m still looking for the best eye cream for stubborn fine lines. I haven’t started using whoo’s jinyul nor hwa hyung eye cream because I was afraid they might be too rich. Maybe I’ll start trying those two as well as Ohui’s first cell revo soon. Wish me luck.
Joseibi
December 13, 2010 at 1:01 pm (892 days ago)Dear JJ,
Strangely enough, I had a very bad reaction to a Sephora brand eyeliner and had to return it too! I also had a bottle of their brush shampoo and yet the heavy fragrance actually gave me a reaction. It must be something in their products not very user friendly for sensitive skin!
Wow, you got a lot of good stuff!!!!!!
For eye creams, somehow the LG brands do well for me too! I am using both Whoo’s Hwanyu eye cream and Sooryehan Bichek Eye Treatment, both are very moisturizing and good for bags and lines. Sulwhasoo’s eye creams are hydrating (the texture is lighter than LG brand eye creams) but I don’t really see results. I tried Jinyul samples, compared to Hwa Hyun line I like the Hwa Hyun line better. It’s hard to compare Hwa Hyun against sulwhasoo though – I like them for different reasons. Whoo’s creams are very buttery which I love. My skin is very dry in winter so it soaks it up in a second.
epiphany
December 27, 2010 at 10:42 pm (877 days ago)Just stumbled across your blog today! Great info here
I am wanting to make the transition into Korean or Japanese skincare & Makeup, but even after reading countless blogs & doing google searches I am still at a loss and hope I can get some advice from you girls; as you seem quite knowledgeable
First of all let me apologize for my horrible grammar/run-on sentances!
Waiting on my current skin care products to run out before I make a purchase, so doing a bit of research ahead of time. hehe.
*I’m currently 32 yrs old*
Currently using : (Am/PM)
Jan Marini Bioglycolic Face Cleanser
Jan Marini Bioclycolic Bioclear Cream
Phytomer Douceur Marine Face Cream
Eye Cream (haven’t settled on a brand yet)
(couple times a week i use Phytomer’s Enzyme Cream & use a Clarifying Mask once a week)
So a bit of background :
I was really blessed with great skin my entire life until I hit my late 20′s. I then got hit with a bit of adult acne (hormonal cause I think). After trying out a plethora of different skincare products & experiencing no improvement; I finally went to see a really great Aesthetician over the course of a year and my skin is much, much better. The products I am currently using are ones that she had recommended for my skin. I still get the occasional break out along my jaw/cheek, but not very often! Thank goodness lol.
I do have sensitive skin, and I had a horrible problem with dry skin/ flakiness as well as the adult acne,which is why she had me on those particular products, which contained Glycolic acid, Salicylic Acid and Azelaic Acid.
My skin has improved alot, but I’m still not ‘glowing’.
I had received a sample of NIA24 Extreme Creme, which I started using in the PM and my skin has been looking really nice! To be honest, this is what has really encouraged me to take the plunge and try to find a good Korean/Japanese brand to experiment with.
So After giving myself a migraine trying to figure out what does what, and which brands had best reviews; I am at a total loss lol.
I am really torn between The History of Whoo, Sulwhasoo & I’m really wanting to try Su:m37.
I am confused about what each line is for, what products are needed. (do i need a lotion & a cream? isn’t that too moisturizing? i’m so confused!)
I’m really interested in trying the Su:m37 but there isn’t much info out there, and I have no idea if it even has any anti-aging products in any of their lines? Or am I better off with one of the other brands?
Right now i’ll just start out with a good Moisturizer & serum and see how my skin reacts to it before I make the switch to face wash/serums.
My biggest fear is not having enough exfoliation with whatever new cleanser I go with, or my acne starting back up again.
Again I apologize for my horribly long post
Any help would be so greatly appreciated!! I am pulling my hair out in frustration over the last few days trying to figure out what to get lol.
Thank you in advance ladies
Joseibi
January 3, 2011 at 3:11 pm (871 days ago)Dear epiphany,
Happy New Year! Thank you for posting! No need to apologize, I hope I can be of help!
You are just 3 years younger than me and I hope that age gap is close enough for me to recommend products that will work for you too. First off, I wonder if your skin could be dehydrated? From my experience, particularly with both western and asian skincare, the western creams don’t go deep enough to treat dehydration, and dehydration is one of the main causes for adult acne. I went through that period in my mid 20s and had the misfortune of trying Proactiv at the time, which damaged my skin and gave me very thin, sensitive and dehydrated skin. The products you mentioned contain AHA, which can further thin out sensitive skin, making it more sensitive. Western brands like AHAs and while the AHAs will help certain people steer clear of pimples, on sensitive skin, from my experience, it doesn’t really get to the root of the problem. It just kept on exfoliating, but if you have dehydrated skin, once you stop with the AHA and your acne is a result of dehydration, your acne will keep coming back, because the dehydration is not addressed. At least that’s my issue back in my mid-20s.
I do find that using a serum or essence with strong hydration will help the skin a lot. Unless your skin is oily, I wouldn’t advise using a drying clay mask – a more gentle, non abrasive exfoliant will work better without drying out the skin.
From your description your skin is flaky and dry, I really suspect dehydration is the cause of your acne. If you can get your skin properly hydrated your zits may very well go away, which is what happened to me 10 years ago. I started using Japanese and Korean skincare and my skin got clear after that.
With Korean or Japanese skincare, most lines come with Emulsion and Cream. The Emulsion is like your moisturizer you can use during the day, and the cream is either for people with very dry skin, or for night use (they don’t label anything night cream in their lineups for most of the products). During the day I usually don’t use the heavier Cream but just the Emulsion, except on days when my skin feels very dry. If you have dry skin then a cream will be your night cream.
Sulwhasoo is a brand for 35+ but you can use it starting at 30 as well – I started when I was 29 actually! It is a great Korean brand. I am currently using The History of Whoo Gongjinhyang: Seol which is the whitening line and if you read my review from today and see the pictures, it did wonders on my freckles. The hydration is good with Sulwhasoo, but as far as whitening goes, Whoo’s Seol line worked better than Sulwhasoo’s Snowise for me. It depends what you want to treat. I think Sulwhasoo’s basic line – the Herb Soap, Balancing Water and Balancing Emulsion will be a great start for you. You will probably need a cream at night. I think the best way to try it out is to get some samples – some are available on ebay – that way you don’t waste money in case the products don’t work for you or cause breakouts.
I just ordered a su:m37 Waterful Gel mask and I cannot wait to try it! I haven’t received it yet. I am curious to see whether this new brand (relatively new – it’s been around since 2007) is as good as LG’s other brands.
If you can get your hands on SKII Facial Treatment Mask, that’s the best mask I have ever used, and it rescued dehydrated/dry/acne skin like no other. It repairs a lot of the skin damage too. If you live in the US you can buy at Saksfifthavenue.com or nordstrom.com (or in their stores in California). Just be careful where you buy SKII, there are fakes out there!
As long as your skin is properly hydrated, it will shed off the dead skin cells by itself every 28 days. When your skin is dry or dehydrated and you exfoliate too much your skin will be very dehydrated again, which is a vicious cycle! Anyway, all this I learned from a friend of mine who manages Amore(Amorepacific) in Toronto.
Best of luck and I hope you will find the products that work for you!
epiphany
January 4, 2011 at 6:00 pm (869 days ago)My skin doesn’t flake anymore, but I think its due to the AHA’s that I have been using. I definitely think my skin is still dehydrated, as it does feel tight if I don’t moisturize my face immediately after washing. I will be honest though, I am really apprehensive not having any type of exfoliation (AHA’s or other). I know as we age our body doesn’t exfoliate as often or as efficiently as it used to; and i’m really scared that my skin will go back to that flaky mess that had layers of dead skin that had to be removed by my aesthetician.
I don’t have any freckles or spots on my face, so I don’t know if there is any reason to try the whitening line?
For now I ordered a sample pack of the : The History of Whoo Soo Yeon line as I think thats is one of their more hydrating lines?
They didn’t have the Hwa Hyun line listed on their english site, although I don’t know if I would be able to get that one anyhow as it is so expensive! My husband would kill me lol.
Thank you again Joseibi
I will let you know how i like the Soo Yeon line whenever the samples arrive, and I eagerly await your review on Su:m37, but in the meantime will definitely try the SKII Facial Treatment mask
Lots of <3 !!
Joseibi
January 5, 2011 at 2:49 pm (869 days ago)Dear epiphany,
Exfoliation is needed for sure but there are much more gentle versions too – have you tried the Korean peeling gels? They are much softer and less abrasive than AHA or scrubs – if you are interested. I have used Coreana’s Nokdu Peeling Gel and it is fantasic, costs less than $20 and it’s so gentle. I love it! Laneige has the Multiberry Peeling Gel too, a bit more expensive but the same idea. You don’t feel the granules so much. I also used Origins Brighter By Nature peels and they are super gentle. Although after anything with AHA you really need to load up on the moisturizer, esp. when you have dehydrated skin, otherwise the exfoliation can backfire on you too.
If you don’t need whitening you won’t need the seol line – I tried the Soo Yeon and unfortunately neither the essence nor the cream hydrates enough for my dehydrated skin! It’s kind of like putting water on, it evaporates rather quickly. The Hwa Hyun line – I tried the cream for about a month and it’s just ok…too expensive for what it is!
Sulwhasoo has a basic lifting cream for less than $100, that one moisturizes very well if you are interested. It was more efficient than Hwa Hyun cream for a third of the price.
My husband used to balk at the amount I spend on skincare too, even though I used the money generated from joseibi sales! but now, whenever I used cheap, bad stuff and complain about it, he would say, why waste money here and there that add up to a lot, just spend good money on a good product! Maybe you can use that strategy
LOL
epiphany
January 16, 2011 at 3:35 pm (858 days ago)Hi Joseibi
Received my Soo Yeon Samples last week, and you are correct that it is not very hydrating; I find I’m having to use both the lotion & the gel and sadly only the Essence and the Moisturizing Gel came in full size in this little set I bought, so I’ll be running out of the lotion soon.
On another note, I ordered some Su:m37 samples off of Gmarket today since I have really wanted to give their products a try and I figured it was a perfect time since I’m running out of my old cleanser. However I am a bit confused on how to use their Amazing Peeling Smoother & google translate didn’t help at all, it just confused me even more.
These are the directions if you could help give me a rough idea on how to use it. :
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I am definitely going to order either the Coreana Nokdu Peeling Gel or the Laneige Multiberry on my next Gmarket purchase and see how I like them compared to this Su:m37 Amazing Peeling Smoother.
I can’t wait for the Gmarket things to arrive so I can do more testing!
Thank you again Joseibi you have been so kind and helpful
Joseibi
January 17, 2011 at 2:41 pm (857 days ago)Dear epiphany,
The su:m37 I got from kgoodshop (kgoodshop@gmail.com or contact him through ebay – kgoodshop is his ID) has English, and even has the English list of ingredients! I have heard that the ones from Gmarket did not come with English. I don’t know why that is…
I apologize but I don’t know about this Amazing Peeling Smoother either, it is possibly a peeling gel like Nokdu’s. Maybe Kev Jang or Smiles would know how to translate or use this product? Thanks in advance if anyone can translate that!
epiphany
January 17, 2011 at 5:52 pm (856 days ago)I had looked at Kgoodshop earlier and didn’t see any su:m37 products on there
I will cross my fingers and hope the ones I get from Gmarket have some english in them, or at least some kind of decipherable instructions 
I appreciate the help though! I did also order Nokdu Peeling Gel and can’t wait to give that a try!
Thanks again
Joseibi
January 18, 2011 at 3:53 pm (855 days ago)Dear epiphany,
kgoodshop can sell su:m37 to you if you email him (kgoodshop@gmail.com) – not everything is listed on his ebay store. When you dont’ go by ebay his prices are lower. I bought from him outside of eBay for the secret programming essence, 80ml, he charged me US$75 which includes shipping by registered airmail. It arrived in the same week I ordered. The goods from kgoodshop have English brochures and instructions!
Nicola
March 9, 2013 at 1:34 am (75 days ago)Hi Joseibi,
The last few times i visited Amore Pacific stores the sales people kept
pushing samples of sulwasoo and iope samples for hydration.
I am in my twenties with acne prone and sensitive skin. From what I
can gather both brands are not intended for someone of my age.
I would like to invest in products with more intense hydrating properties
since the Laneige water bank series is not enough. But the brand’s perfect
renew series does seem promising.
Another reason for my hesitation is due to the fact that i do not want to
cause breakouts or confuse my skin from switching products too often.
More than a little confused to be quite frank.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Joseibi
March 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm (63 days ago)Hi Nicola,
Funny enough they almost never recommend Laneige at their stores! IOPE can be used in your late twenties, but Sulwhasoo, except for their basic products, is indeed designed for 35+ age group. If you have acne prone and sensitive skin I don’t particularly recommend Laneige (or even IOPE) – even Sulwhasoo contains perfume. All 3 brands are heavily fragranced and if you have sensitive skin you may have a reaction to the products. You can try out the samples just to see if your skin tolerates them.
For your age and skin type you are probably better off with Sofina Jenne, or Hadalabo, both of which are fragrance free. A lot of Korean brands contain fragrance so if it is an allergen for your skin you will need to get something that doesn’t contain fragrance, and only a few brands (e.g. su:m37) from the Korean lineup fit this description.